Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Some of the reasons are outlined in > > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken Thanks very much for that link. It's very informative, and reasonably well written, though with a few forgivable grammatical errors. > Of course, the typical response is argue that, this shouldn't be the > case but that is at this point just wishful thinking. Not on my machine. $ egrep 'usb-db|pci-db|FROM_DATABASE|/usr' /*/udev/rules.d/* egrep: /*/udev/rules.d/*: No such file or directory I think this particular quote > What to do about this? Well, in theory all these programs could be > fixed, and major parts of /usr be moved into /. However, the question is > for what benefit? is misdirected. The question should be posed the other way. What is the benefit of making non-necessary programs be necessary to boot? Obviously, there is none, it's just something which happened b/c people didn't think about what they were doing. Also, it's not necessary to move "major parts of /usr into /". So, what you are saying is that things are broken, and nobody at Red Hat wants to do anything about it, simply because nobody did the necessary thought and effort before making changes, and now it's "too late". Well, different people have different priorities, I suppose. I don't have those problems on my machine, and I have, at times in the past, had /usr be a separately mounted file system, though at present it's not the way my machine is configured. It's one of the more unattractive parts of the current direction being taken by the UNIX world, and Linux in particular, that changes get made w/o careful consideration and planning. People see a way in which they would prefer the system would behave differently, and so they figure out a way to change that, and everyone jumps on the bandwagon because there is a sort of automatic glee at "newness", and then later people start slapping their foreheads and wishing that things hadn't turned out quite the way they did. This might be a good opportunity for some of the more cool headed people at Red Hat and other distro providers to argue for a little more deliberate approach to choosing the future direction of their products. Just something possibly worth considering. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines