Re: Installation Impressions

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:19:03 -0600 Thomas Paine <painethom@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Honestly fedora is going to give you more trouble. I would install centos if you want an rpm based install. It will save you headache when you get to the pulse audio issues if you stay away from fedora.


I don;t know about that. I have never had trouble with Fedora
installs from 1 to 14, except when my HW was very new (iwl4965)
about two years ago. I have had some minor trouble with ubuntu. Fedora
is a leading-edge distribution and you get what you bargain for.

> You can also use Ubuntu 10.10 which I am currently using.
> 
> If you want to get fedora to install download the live USB Creator and install from a stick. Then yum update to get current.

This (update to get current) is true even for a network install
(unfortunately), even though it does not need to be.

Really, with regard to distributions, to each his/her own. My wife
prefers and uses Ubuntu: I have stuck with Fedora. 

Ranjan


> 
> On 2011-02-05 11:13 AM, "Nikolaus Rath" <Nikolaus@xxxxxxxx<mailto:Nikolaus@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora
> > 14. I want to share a couple of impressions:
> >
> > I don't have a CD writer at hand, so I downloaded the netinstall image.
> > Following the instructions in the installation guide, I copied vmlinuz
> > and initrd.img from the .iso and bootet into it using my existing grub2
> > setup.
> >
> > The first surprise came when the installer asked me where to install
> > from. I downloaded the network image, so I thought it'd be obvious that
> > I wanted to install from the network.
> >
> > Lacking any URL or NFS server address, I figured that maybe the
> > installer is asking for the netinstall image itself? That'd be weird,
> > but seemed the most reasonable explanation.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am not able to use the downloaded disk image because
> > at this point the installer doesn't have LVM support. Brr.
> >
> > Rebooted, copied the network image into NFS share, booted into the
> > installer again.
> >
> > Now the installer reports that it can't mount the share. This is
> > obviously wrong, because if I try to specify the filename of the
> > netimage rather than just the directory, the installer complains that
> > this isn't the right file.
> >
> > Grmbl. Reboot, read the documentation again. Ok, apparently I should be
> > able to manually enter the URL of a Fedora mirror. So I grab I piece of
> > paper and write down
> >
> > http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/fedora/releases/14/Fedora/x86_86/os/
> >
> > Reboot, back into the installer. I am wondering why the hell I have to
> > enter this. The installer knows what I'm trying to install, and it should be
> > able to figure out where the closest mirror is.
> >
> > Crash. I forgot that I downloaded the netboot image for i386. Why isn't
> > the installer warning me that install.img that it downloaded doesn't
> > work with the booted kernel?
> >
> > Reboot, typed the correct address. Now I'm in a graphical mode that
> > knows LVM.
> >
> > I'm warned about the installer not being able to update my existing
> > installation, but there is no existing Fedora installation. Well,
> > whatever.
> >
> > Now the installer asks for the password of my LUKS encrypted swap
> > partition. Unfortunately the password is chosen at random on every boot.
> > It gives a really scary error message that it will not be able to use
> > this storage device which doesn't seem appropriate to me.
> >
> > I chose manual partitioning. The installer asks me for the LUKS password
> > again and gives a scary error again. Now I'm trying to use the swap
> > partition for Fedora as well. I double click on it, and select "format
> > as swap", "encrypted". Doesn't seem to have any effect, there is no
> > indication that Fedora will actually use the device, and when I'm
> > reopening the dialog then my settings are gone.
> >
> > Alright, so I'll do without swap for now. Next thing the installer
> > complains that I cannot put my root partition into LVM2. This works just
> > fine with Grub2, and isn't Fedora supposed to be cutting edge? Anyway,
> > so I try to create a primary /boot partition instead.
> >
> > There is 128 MB of free space. I tell the installer to use all the space
> > that's available. It claims that there is not enough space left.
> >
> > At this point I just got too annoyed. Am I just extremely unlucky or is
> > a Fedora installation always that painful?
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > -Nikolaus
> >
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