Hello, I'm a long term Debian and Ubuntu user and just tried to install Fedora 14. I want to share a couple of impressions: I don't have a CD writer at hand, so I downloaded the netinstall image. Following the instructions in the installation guide, I copied vmlinuz and initrd.img from the .iso and bootet into it using my existing grub2 setup. The first surprise came when the installer asked me where to install from. I downloaded the network image, so I thought it'd be obvious that I wanted to install from the network. Lacking any URL or NFS server address, I figured that maybe the installer is asking for the netinstall image itself? That'd be weird, but seemed the most reasonable explanation. Unfortunately, I am not able to use the downloaded disk image because at this point the installer doesn't have LVM support. Brr. Rebooted, copied the network image into NFS share, booted into the installer again. Now the installer reports that it can't mount the share. This is obviously wrong, because if I try to specify the filename of the netimage rather than just the directory, the installer complains that this isn't the right file. Grmbl. Reboot, read the documentation again. Ok, apparently I should be able to manually enter the URL of a Fedora mirror. So I grab I piece of paper and write down http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/fedora/releases/14/Fedora/x86_86/os/ Reboot, back into the installer. I am wondering why the hell I have to enter this. The installer knows what I'm trying to install, and it should be able to figure out where the closest mirror is. Crash. I forgot that I downloaded the netboot image for i386. Why isn't the installer warning me that install.img that it downloaded doesn't work with the booted kernel? Reboot, typed the correct address. Now I'm in a graphical mode that knows LVM. I'm warned about the installer not being able to update my existing installation, but there is no existing Fedora installation. Well, whatever. Now the installer asks for the password of my LUKS encrypted swap partition. Unfortunately the password is chosen at random on every boot. It gives a really scary error message that it will not be able to use this storage device which doesn't seem appropriate to me. I chose manual partitioning. The installer asks me for the LUKS password again and gives a scary error again. Now I'm trying to use the swap partition for Fedora as well. I double click on it, and select "format as swap", "encrypted". Doesn't seem to have any effect, there is no indication that Fedora will actually use the device, and when I'm reopening the dialog then my settings are gone. Alright, so I'll do without swap for now. Next thing the installer complains that I cannot put my root partition into LVM2. This works just fine with Grub2, and isn't Fedora supposed to be cutting edge? Anyway, so I try to create a primary /boot partition instead. There is 128 MB of free space. I tell the installer to use all the space that's available. It claims that there is not enough space left. At this point I just got too annoyed. Am I just extremely unlucky or is a Fedora installation always that painful? Best, -Nikolaus -- ÂTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana. PGP fingerprint: 5B93 61F8 4EA2 E279 ABF6 02CF A9AD B7F8 AE4E 425C -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines