On 06/01/2010 09:39 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > So let's make the assumption that surveys are a useful tool and leave it > at that. If you are uncomfortable with that assumption then we can't > engage in this discussion together, I'm sorry. > Only when done properly.... > >> Are you saying that 19% is an insignificant portion of the community? >> What percentage must it be to garner consideration? What is the >> threshold? What is the margin of error in the survey? >> > If I told you the margin of error of the survey (not difficult to > calculate) would you even understand how to interpret it? > "I" may no be able to.... However, I have mentioned that I do have a very good friend who has been in the business of designing and taking surveys for the past 20+ years. I'll take your survey, and its conclusions and run it by him. > Did you read the survey analysis and see that the percentages were > additive? Did you notice that the numbers in the piechart don't add up > to 100%? This is because users were able to select more than one > download method. So if someone used both torrents and mirrors, they were > counted in the 19% of torrent users. > Yep...read it....looked at the charts. Noticed that...knew it would be the case. > >> While this is purely anecdotal..... My dad is 84 years old. He had >> been a long time MS-Windows user. I got tired of trying to fix his >> Windows problems via long distance. Last year we talked about it and he >> agree to move to Linux. One of the first questions he asked me was "can >> I download it with bittorrent?". That is probably due to his addiction >> to "The Pirate Bay". The point is, torrents are not only for the highly >> technical. >> > Anecdotal evidence about your 84-year-old father is not an appropriate > response to quantitative and objective data. If you are willing to step > outside of your immediate surroundings and gather some actual data to > inform the design we would obviously be more than welcome to consider it > in our design processes in the future. > It was simply to illustrate that not only technical people use torrents. I thought the last sentence would have clued you into that.... > > >> But, isn't it time to let this go? The Get Fedora page has now been >> modified. One can now find the torrents from that page. It may be a >> bit more obscured than I would have it...but it is there. >> > You're the one who continued to post to the thread... > > I only responded today after "several" additional posts by you. One of which I directly took issue with as I felt is mis-characterized what transpired. As I said, the Get Fedora page has been modified to include torrents. So, what is the point to continue to defend the decision to exclude them? -- Visit beautiful Vergas, Minnesota. 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段
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