On 5 February 2010 15:35, Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 01:29 +0000, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> On 4 February 2010 14:55, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Yes.... But, I think, is where the confusion came in. >> > >> > Even without the sftp.service file F11 would indicate sftp service >> > availability. But, in both F11 and F12 there does exist a ssh.service >> > file. So, apparently, the F11 client would presume that sftp service is >> > also available since that is the same port as ssh. Now, it seems the >> > F12 GNOME client only displays sftp if it is explicitly indicated in the >> > response. >> >> In theory, you could almost "assume" that the SSH service being >> available, meant SFTP was available as it's pretty unusual to disable >> SFTP transfers via SSH. That may have been the old behaviour of Gnome >> in F11. >> >> However, the "correct" behaviour is not to make assumptions and only >> show the services that are advertised. > But doewsn't the ssh.service filwe cause an ssh service to be > advertised. Why is that noot sufficient to cause the fedora icons to be > shown in Places->Network? Because SSH is a method of connecting to a server which also allows data transfer - but it's possible to have SSH enabled, but not enable SFTP - which means the Gnome VFS module that handles transferring files over SSH wouldn't work as it relies on SFTP. I'm guessing Gnome has therefore chosen to only show things in Places->Network that are definitely methods of file transfer, hence will only show if SFTP is advertised as a service. It's very confusing, but I don't know how they could make this more obvious - it took me at least 30 minutes of digging into Avahi to realise what it was doing and I have the luxury of being on a huge network with a large variety of machines - at which point the pattern of what shows up and what doesn't is much more apparent. If you've got a small homogenous network, noticing and debugging what's going on would be much harder (I couldn't work it out on my home network, which is a couple of Fedora machines and an Apple Laptop.) -- Sam -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
