On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 12:53 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 14 August 2008, Craig White wrote: > >On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 12:03 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Thursday 14 August 2008, Craig White wrote: > >> >On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 05:24 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >> On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> >> [...] > >> >> > >> >> >This is the same stuff/error that kills vlc from building when > >> >> > compiling from source. It asked for ffmpeg, I got that and installed > >> >> > it, it then complains about ffmeg-devel and I get it and install it > >> >> > and it still complains about not having it. I know I can get vlc > >> >> > from livna and I have done that, but I wanted to build it from source > >> >> > so I can easily update, but it does not work :( > >> >> > > >> >> >Try to install it via yum. Enable livna or freshrpms and install it > >> >> > from there. I guess it might be the best way? > >> >> > >> >> Someone said livna was up to kino-1.3.0, but all I can see is 1.2.0, > >> >> and it insults our intelligence by needing that worthless POS > >> >> pulseaudio. > >> >> > >> >> Put me on a list so you can let me know when pulseaudio works. Or if > >> >> it now works in some private lab setting, how to make it work on an F8 > >> >> x86 system. I nuked that with extreme prejudice when I installed F8, > >> >> and haven't had a lick of trouble with my audio since. AFAIC its just > >> >> another aggravation foisted off on us to remind us this is a "bleeding > >> >> edge" distro and that we should not ever expect it to "just work". > >> > > >> >---- > >> >I think that you completely misunderstand the point of pulseaudio but > >> >that is your prerogative but it's unfair for you to spread the FUD > >> > > >> >I'm sure it will come as a shock to you to find that pulseaudio is also > >> >included in Ubuntu. > >> > >> I'm aware of that, also aware that they did like we did, nuked it so they > >> can have sound more complex than the pc's beeper. > >> > >> When I last installed from the December respin, it still did not work, and > >> that was what, the 2nd or 3rd respin? Seems to me if it was going to > >> work, it should have worked for >90% of the people by then. > >> > >> Bare in mind I have two sound systems in this machine, I use the > >> motherboards AC97 chipset for skype and friends, and an Audigy 2 (the good > >> one) for everything else. If pulseaudio cannot be respectful of the > >> settings in my /etc/modprobe.conf that achieve that, then it is of no use > >> to me. > >> > >> >From an lspci: > >> > >> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio > >> Controler (MCP) (rev a1) > >> 01:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and > >> Audio Decoder (rev 05) > >> 01:07.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio > >> Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05) > >> 01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value > >> > >> All of which I expect to work, and which do so now with as much pulseaudio > >> removed as can be without nuking the whole system. > >> > >> If however, it is now working for others, please share with me what it > >> took to make it work, preferably for everyone. Or better yet cuz the list > >> will be quieter, point me to a how to URL. > > > >---- > >pulseaudio is userland and since you run GUI as root, it's meaningless > >to you anyway...that's what I meant by stating that you don't understand > >it's use/purpose. > > So far Craig, no one has has offered a clear, lucid explanation of how it (is > supposed to) works. It's just like alsa, a big secret, and devoid even of a > means to re-init it other than rebooting. Where is the 'service alsa > restart'? This is NOT the foss way. ---- sysV services were never intended to launch processes that only run in user space. I suppose you could do a 'man pulseaudio' or just blindly figure out that a SIGHUP will restart a process (even alsa). www.pulseaudio.org Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
