On Thursday 14 August 2008, Craig White wrote: >On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 12:03 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 14 August 2008, Craig White wrote: >> >On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 05:24 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> On Wednesday 13 August 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> >> >This is the same stuff/error that kills vlc from building when >> >> > compiling from source. It asked for ffmpeg, I got that and installed >> >> > it, it then complains about ffmeg-devel and I get it and install it >> >> > and it still complains about not having it. I know I can get vlc >> >> > from livna and I have done that, but I wanted to build it from source >> >> > so I can easily update, but it does not work :( >> >> > >> >> >Try to install it via yum. Enable livna or freshrpms and install it >> >> > from there. I guess it might be the best way? >> >> >> >> Someone said livna was up to kino-1.3.0, but all I can see is 1.2.0, >> >> and it insults our intelligence by needing that worthless POS >> >> pulseaudio. >> >> >> >> Put me on a list so you can let me know when pulseaudio works. Or if >> >> it now works in some private lab setting, how to make it work on an F8 >> >> x86 system. I nuked that with extreme prejudice when I installed F8, >> >> and haven't had a lick of trouble with my audio since. AFAIC its just >> >> another aggravation foisted off on us to remind us this is a "bleeding >> >> edge" distro and that we should not ever expect it to "just work". >> > >> >---- >> >I think that you completely misunderstand the point of pulseaudio but >> >that is your prerogative but it's unfair for you to spread the FUD >> > >> >I'm sure it will come as a shock to you to find that pulseaudio is also >> >included in Ubuntu. >> >> I'm aware of that, also aware that they did like we did, nuked it so they >> can have sound more complex than the pc's beeper. >> >> When I last installed from the December respin, it still did not work, and >> that was what, the 2nd or 3rd respin? Seems to me if it was going to >> work, it should have worked for >90% of the people by then. >> >> Bare in mind I have two sound systems in this machine, I use the >> motherboards AC97 chipset for skype and friends, and an Audigy 2 (the good >> one) for everything else. If pulseaudio cannot be respectful of the >> settings in my /etc/modprobe.conf that achieve that, then it is of no use >> to me. >> >> >From an lspci: >> >> 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio >> Controler (MCP) (rev a1) >> 01:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and >> Audio Decoder (rev 05) >> 01:07.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio >> Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05) >> 01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value >> >> All of which I expect to work, and which do so now with as much pulseaudio >> removed as can be without nuking the whole system. >> >> If however, it is now working for others, please share with me what it >> took to make it work, preferably for everyone. Or better yet cuz the list >> will be quieter, point me to a how to URL. > >---- >pulseaudio is userland and since you run GUI as root, it's meaningless >to you anyway...that's what I meant by stating that you don't understand >it's use/purpose. So far Craig, no one has has offered a clear, lucid explanation of how it (is supposed to) works. It's just like alsa, a big secret, and devoid even of a means to re-init it other than rebooting. Where is the 'service alsa restart'? This is NOT the foss way. >Of course it's only going to get in your way as does >all other userland conveniences since you always have the power of >superuser and have access to all devices. I've been denied access to something by selinux several times. Probably unrelated, but its happened. >Since you use GUI as root and have little reason to adapt to userland >conveniences, your utterance of disdain for pulseaudio can only be FUD But no link to a howto, how very obvious... > >Craig -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) sticky bit has come loose -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
