Re: Fedora Desktop future- RedHat moves

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On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 10:39 -0400, max wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 23:36 -0400, max bianco wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Les <hlhowell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>  On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 13:45 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> >>>  >   Why should I be interested in a distribution that makes it
> >>>  > difficult
> >>>  > for me to make my own choices about whether a license is acceptable
> >>>  > or
> >>>  > not? I don't have a problem with downloading my own copy of any
> >>>  > particular code from any particular place under any conditions that I
> >>>  > find acceptable.
> >>>  But that is the problem.  The folks with proprietary want to limit your
> >>>  use to only the systems they have chosen to support, thus you can end up
> >>>  with instruments or software that you have purchased that will not run
> >>>  when the OS changes.  Furthermore their licenses forbid you from reverse
> >>>  engineering the code to figure out how to make it work some where else,
> >>>  and the owner of the proprietary OS won't let you do any reverse
> >>>  engineering legally to figure out how to interface to the software or
> >>>  hardware he/she/it chooses to no longer support.  Thus you are obsoleted
> >>>  with no legal recourse.  Those lovely sites where you download such
> >>>  utilities are often legally not clean to use either, depending upon the
> >>>  laws that the various entities have seen fit to pass.  Finally your own
> >>>  documents, code and other encoded data may be unaccessable to you
> >>>  either, because the formatting, encoding, encryption or compression may
> >>>  be proprietary and non disclosed with the attendant no reverse
> >>>  engineering clauses, leaving you without access even to your own
> >>>  material.
> >>>
> >>>  That is why these licenses, and the subject of libre or free software is
> >>>  important.
> >>>
> >>>  Regards,
> >>>  Les H
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Adobe Flash is something I can't for the life of me figure out why
> >> anyone would use. You can't kill the adds like you can with gnash and
> >> it leaves a gaping security hole in everything it touches.
> > 
> > If you mean Firefox then Flashblock, Adblock and Noscript are all
> > effective. I use all three.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> Yes I have at one time or another tried and used them all but it strikes 
> me as wrong to have run software A to keep software B from bothering me. 
> Why install Flash if your going to block it anyway?

Because I can then decide on a case by case basis whether I want to use
it. There are flash sites which I want to see, but by default I block
them until I can decide.

poc

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