Re: A sound problem one more time.- THE SOLUTION AT LAST (PLEASE NOTE)

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On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 19:01 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Friday 15 February 2008 20:32, Mark C. Allman wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > On Friday 15 February 2008 02:35, Mark C. Allman wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 22:13 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 14 February 2008 18:01, Mark C. Allman wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 22:43 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday 13 February 2008 21:34, Frank Chiulli wrote:
> > > > > > > > Nigel,
> > > > > > > > I have a Sound Blaster Live! Value.  This is an older machine. 
> > > > > > > > F8 detected the card automatically.  Unfortunately I can't tell
> > > > > > > > you exactly when I got the error.  I had tried lots of things
> > > > > > > > to get sound to work but never did.  It wasn't a big deal. 
> > > > > > > > Then I was looking at something else when I was the error.  I
> > > > > > > > figured that I would take a look at it.  It seems like an easy
> > > > > > > > fix.  It seems pretty obvious to me what was wrong.  So I
> > > > > > > > corrected it.  Then sound worked.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Frank. I was hoping that you would say that
> > > > > > > your card was also an isa one, and would tie it in with Aarons
> > > > > > > problems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's nice to see that both of you have resolved the problem, but
> > > > > > > what's going on to cause these problems is beyond me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As you see from what I posted above, my audigy2 soundblaster was
> > > > > > > detected ok, and apart from disabling pulseaudio by removing
> > > > > > > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, and adding the usual lines to
> > > > > > > /etc/modprobe.conf for my usb midi keyboard that uses
> > > > > > > snd-usb-audio, the sounds are working ok.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyway, the fact that both you and Aaron now have sounds is the
> > > > > > > main thing. Quite why you've both had problems, and me none, I've
> > > > > > > no idea. That's computers for you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nigel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark says:
> > > > > > When I run the "alsa-info.sh" script I see an error message when it
> > > > > > tries to collect the data that says something like "no soundcard
> > > > > > found." I think it's the same error that I see when I run aplay to
> > > > > > list out cards:
> > > > > >     [mcallman@prez tmp]$ aplay -l
> > > > > >     aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, when I look at the script results, I see the following at
> > > > > > about line 65 (this is after I tried "model=toshiba" in
> > > > > > modprobe.conf even though my laptop is a Dell XPS 1710):
> > > > > >     Loaded sound module option
> > > > > >     --------------------------
> > > > > >     Module: snd_hda_intel
> > > > > >     enable : N
> > > > > >     id : <NULL>
> > > > > >     index : 0
> > > > > >     model : toshiba
> > > > > >     position_fix : 0
> > > > > >     power_save : 0
> > > > > >     power_save_controller : Y
> > > > > >     probe_mask : -1
> > > > > >     single_cmd : N
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could the "enable: N" line be the key here?  For those of you that
> > > > > > have sound working, what do you see listed for "enable?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it helps, you can look at all the test results that the script
> > > > > > uploaded at:
> > > > > >     http://pastebin.ca/903970
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Mark C. Allman, PMP
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mark. I've sort of lost the plot a bit, but do you have your sound
> > > > > working now?
> > > > >
> > > > > I ask because the Alsa development folks are working hard on
> > > > > resolving problems, particularly with the hda intel cards. Alsa
> > > > > driver 1.0.16 has just been released, and I see many patches being
> > > > > applied to the hda intel codecs, including your STAC9200 one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nigel.
> > > >
> > > > Sound works using:
> > > >     Pidgin
> > > >     VLC (playing Rush/Tom Sawyer right now)
> > > >     RealAudio
> > > >
> > > > It does not work for:
> > > >     gnome-cd (won't start a track)
> > > >     grip (starts reading tracks, but no sound)
> > > >     aplay/arecord ("no soundcard found")
> > > >     Flash in Firefox
> > > >     system-config-soundcard (everything's there--just no sound!!)
> > > >
> > > > I can pipe a ".au" file (if I remember the extension correctly)
> > > > to /dev/audio and I hear it.
> > > >
> > > > Some "/proc/asound" stuff:
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/
> > > >     card0 cards devices hwdep Intel modules oss pcm seq timers version
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/cards
> > > >      0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
> > > >                           HDA Intel at 0xdfffc000 irq 21
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/card0
> > > >     codec#0  codec#1  id  oss_mixer  pcm0c  pcm0p  pcm1p
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/pcm
> > > >     00-01: STAC92xx Digital : STAC92xx Digital : playback 1
> > > >     00-00: STAC92xx Analog : STAC92xx Analog : playback 1 : capture 1
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/modules
> > > >     0 snd_hda_intel
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/devices
> > > >       2:        : timer
> > > >       3:        : sequencer
> > > >       4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback
> > > >       5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
> > > >       6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
> > > >       7: [ 0- 1]: hardware dependent
> > > >       8: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent
> > > >       9: [ 0]   : control
> > > >     [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls -ld /proc/asound/Intel
> > > >     lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2008-02-14 20:18 /proc/asound/Intel ->
> > > > card0
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions would be welcome.  If any of the Alsa development folks
> > > > would like a test bed to try out ideas just let me know.
> > > >
> > > > -- Mark C. Allman
> > >
> > > Hi Mark. I know I've got pulseaudio on the brain, as I had problems with
> > > it, and disabled it, but have you got the default install of F8, where
> > > pulseaudio is enabled? I ask because of the sound apps that you have
> > > working. Realplayer uses OSS, VLC uses natively OSS, or Alsa, and also
> > > Gnomes ESD. Not sure about Pidgin (Gaim), but I believe it uses OSS for
> > > it's sounds. Puzzling why Alsa apps won't work.
> > >
> > > If you havn't messed with pulseaudio since installing F8, I think I'd do
> > > a: yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
> > >
> > > having done that I'd see if now aplay, audio cd's, etc work.
> > >
> > > Enough for now.
> > >
> > > Nigel.
> >
> > The only PulseAudio package I have installed is
> > pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8.  It's needed for
> > libflashsupport-000-0.1.svn20070904.
> 
> Hi Marc. Sorry for the delay in replying. I spent a while today going back 
> through the alsa-devel archives, and the only reference to the Dell XPS 1710, 
> was one for the Dell XPS M1710w (which may well be the same machine), and was 
> to do with a problem with the subwoofer not working with the alsa 1.0.14 
> driver, and on a Suse install. See below for the thread.
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-August/subject.html
> 
> I'll contact the guy directly, after you've replied to this post, to see if he 
> had any problems with getting sound working on his machine. I'd like to 
> clarify some things with you first though.
> 
> First, and I hate to say the word, but pulseaudio. I know you have removed 
> most of the pulseaudio packages, but would you confirm that the 
> "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio" package is no longer installed. Yumex should show 
> if it's installed, or rpm -q alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.
> 
> Secondly, and just out of interest, do you have access to alsamixer on the 
> command line?
> 
> Thirdly. You have model options for snd-hda-intel set as model=toshiba. From 
> the ALSA-configuration.txt file, that's in the alsa driver tarball, I see the 
> following model options, including one for the Dell XPS M1710 
> (model=dell-m23). It's worth trying that one, as it seems pretty specific. 
> See below for the full list of options. (It's for the 1.0.15 alsa driver)
> 
> STAC9200
>    ref  Reference board
>    dell-d21 Dell (unknown)
>    dell-d22 Dell (unknown)
>    dell-d23 Dell (unknown)
>    dell-m21 Dell Inspiron 630m, Dell Inspiron 640m
>    dell-m22 Dell Latitude D620, Dell Latitude D820
>    dell-m23 Dell XPS M1710, Dell Precision M90
>    dell-m24 Dell Latitude 120L
>    dell-m25 Dell Inspiron E1505n
>    dell-m26 Dell Inspiron 1501
>    dell-m27 Dell Inspiron E1705/9400
>    gateway Gateway laptops with EAPD control
> >
> > The OSS packages I have installed:
> >    alsa-oss-libs-1.0.14-3.fc8
> >    nss_compat_ossl-0.9.2-3.fc8
> >    alsa-oss-1.0.14-3.fc8
> >    alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.15-2.fc8
> >
> >
> > -- Mark C. Allman
> 
> Over to you, and all the best.
> 
> Nigel.
> 
For pulseaudio:
    The only PulseAudio package I have installed is
    pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8.

For option values in modprobe:  I tried all ("all") the dell values.
Someone earlier said they used "toshiba" even though their laptop wasn't
a Toshiba, so I thought I'd try it.  No luck, of course.

alsamixer:
    [mcallman@prez tmp]$ alsamixer

    alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such 
    file or directory


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