On Sunday 30 December 2007, Tim wrote: >Craig White: >> Actually, anyone who has set up Windows 2003 Server in the last year has >> noticed that this shouldn't happen anymore because the firewall is >> automatic during initial setup phase and user is clearly aware that >> during initial setup phase, this firewall remains until updates are all >> installed or the user opts out. > >That's hardly an OS for a user. In this case, it would have been 2000 >or XP, most likely. > >> Let's give Microsoft a little credit (not much, but a little). > >Only as being a successful software *pusher*, not for being a good >software creator. > >My laptop came with Vista, there was virtually no avoiding it. Not >unless I wanted to mail order in some computer that I'd never been able >to physically inspect in a shop before purchase. And that's not >something I'll do with a purchase of that price. > >I can see they've smartened up a bit, but only a bit. Yes, at long >last, you don't have to login as the admin to do some admin tasks. Just >give an admin password at the right moment, just like when we try to use >one of the various system-config- whatever GUIs. But it doesn't give >you an option to keep that authentication for the next one, you're >forever typing in the password. Eventually users are going to turn off >the security, in one way or another. > >It doesn't always work, either. Not everything will run as a user, or >let the user run it as an admin. For example, I thought I'd have a look >at the BBC's / Patrick Moore's "Sky at Night" [1]. There's no way that >I can make use of the view on-line feature. It wants to install some >Real Media software, and I can't. It fails, because the run-as an admin >doesn't work, and you can't actually log in as an admin (well you >probably can, but I can't find a way to do it). And why did I try this >in Vista? Because I couldn't get it to work in Linux. The on-line >thing was a no-goer. I used mplayer to stream-dump, but that gives me >audio-only playback. > >1: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/spaceguide/skyatnight/ > FWIW Tim, it is all working for me right now. Numerous clicks to actually get to the mplayer, and the video's aspect ratio is squeezed somewhat, but its working. >-- >[tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr >2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386 > >Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. > >Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. >I read messages from the public lists. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Questionable day. Ask somebody something. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list