Craig White: > Actually, anyone who has set up Windows 2003 Server in the last year has > noticed that this shouldn't happen anymore because the firewall is > automatic during initial setup phase and user is clearly aware that > during initial setup phase, this firewall remains until updates are all > installed or the user opts out. That's hardly an OS for a user. In this case, it would have been 2000 or XP, most likely. > Let's give Microsoft a little credit (not much, but a little). Only as being a successful software *pusher*, not for being a good software creator. My laptop came with Vista, there was virtually no avoiding it. Not unless I wanted to mail order in some computer that I'd never been able to physically inspect in a shop before purchase. And that's not something I'll do with a purchase of that price. I can see they've smartened up a bit, but only a bit. Yes, at long last, you don't have to login as the admin to do some admin tasks. Just give an admin password at the right moment, just like when we try to use one of the various system-config- whatever GUIs. But it doesn't give you an option to keep that authentication for the next one, you're forever typing in the password. Eventually users are going to turn off the security, in one way or another. It doesn't always work, either. Not everything will run as a user, or let the user run it as an admin. For example, I thought I'd have a look at the BBC's / Patrick Moore's "Sky at Night" [1]. There's no way that I can make use of the view on-line feature. It wants to install some Real Media software, and I can't. It fails, because the run-as an admin doesn't work, and you can't actually log in as an admin (well you probably can, but I can't find a way to do it). And why did I try this in Vista? Because I couldn't get it to work in Linux. The on-line thing was a no-goer. I used mplayer to stream-dump, but that gives me audio-only playback. 1: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/spaceguide/skyatnight/ -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.23.1-10.fc7 i686 i386 Using FC 4, 5, 6 & 7, plus CentOS 5. Today, it's FC7. Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
