Re: Re : ready to give up Linux

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On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 20:10 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
> On 8/6/07, Paul Johnson <pauljohn32@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I have now installed Fedora (including fc7) on a number of different
> > > machines and they all work just fine : they install easily, find
> > > everything and run first time no problems.
> > >
> > > Maybe there is something you are doing incorrectly during the install
> > > process : it is easy to overlook something if you speed through the
> > > install too quickly.
> > >
> > > Also, are installing or updating? If one is updating (from, say, FC6 to
> > > fc7) then it usually (in my experience) doesn't work and I have found
> > > that it's best to do a complete install with every new version of
> > > Fedora.
> > >
> > > I can't agree with the reply that there's a problem with Fedora maturity
> > > (or maturity in any other distro if it comes to that). Each distro has
> > > its own quirks and and characteristics, but I have found that "maturity"
> > > has nothing to do with it. Each new version of a distro addresses
> > > outstanding matters such as small bugs, new devices, new protocols,
> > > updated applications and so on and, despite its stability, even Linux
> > > will be prone to small bugs being introduced whenever there is an update
> > > to the kernel or an application. But nothing like the problems one
> > > experiences with Windoze.
> > >
> > > Maybe the machine on which you are trying to install fc7 has some
> > > characteristic that Linux doesn't like or can't cope with : I understand
> > > that laptops in general seem to be Linux UNfiendly but, with my IBM R31,
> > > I've had no troubles with any distro I've tried installing on it
> > > (perhaps because it is old now?).
> > > CroombeFP
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I'm sympathetic to the original poster on this thread.  I've been
> > running Linux since Redhat 4.1, a long time.  If F7 had been the first
> > Linux for me, I am pretty sure  I would have quit.
> >
> > On a Dell Inspiron laptop, I've had nothing but trouble with the
> > kernel and udev.  Suspend/Hibernate did not work, original kernel and
> > update have had serious problems to work on, usb sticks did not mount
> > automatically, the wireless network (iwl3945) has been a disaster, and
> > Gnome seems to get worse and worse.
> >
> > I would think this is the normal state of Linux, I suppose, except
> > that last month I bought a Nokia N800 internet tablet that runs on a
> > small version of Debian linux.  Guess what?  Everywhere I go, the
> > wireless connects effortlessly.
> >
> > F7 is the first fedora that made me feel like a beta tester (or alpha
> > tester) for RedHat enterprise linux.  Simply too many fundamentals
> > have not worked well and require hours of study and work.  And the
> > various "help" pages, such as the pm-suspend quirks page, are simply
> > unhelpful.
> 
> I agree entirely with Paul. If I were not a Fedora user since F4, I
> would have already quit. In fact, in my case, I would not have been
> able to install F7, as F7 installation disk does not simply install
> anything here. I imagine that new users that, like me, cannot install
> F7 will abandon Fedora immediately.
> 
> Paul
> 
That's funny. The F7 DVD installed something for me. What are you
referring to?
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