On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 04:26:04PM -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote: > >If only that were true... NVidia has stated plenty times that they don't > >make many parts of the cards (which leads me to think they're crapware > >producers) as the reason for not publishing. > > You've come to this conclusion because personally know of numerous > other hardware companies that do design every single component that > goes into their products? What's this got to do with it? I'm not criticizing it, I'm saying it's a lame excuse. Others don't feel that as a problem, NVidia only does it, in great part I suspect, due to DRM. > >Besides, the biggest trade secret might be that many things are done in > >software at the main CPU instead of the GPU. Who knows... maybe you're > >eating a cat while wondering what a nice rabbit stew NVidia allowed you > >to use. > > > >> > You won't have people complaining that VMware Server isn't OSS. They > >can > >> > use qemu, bochs, xen, whatever. The drive images format is relatively > >> > known, so you can use them with some of the other systems. > >> > >> IMO, qemu, bochs, xen, and whatever are just not as easy to use. > > > >plonk... any user who uses virtualization shouldn't be so technically > >challenged as to think qemu is hard at all to use... > > Clearly you've never used vmware if that's your opinion. The learning > curve required to use vmware is almost flat. The learning curve > required to use qemu, bochs, kvm and especially xen is incredibly > steep. I'm not saying which is easiest to use, that's a shallow point. I'm just wondering how anyone can find qemu's learning curve steep... but maybe that's just me. > >I don't know enough about GPUs to say what's enough, but if you compare > >Intels behaviour with that of NVidia with such dismissal... I'd say you > >know even less. > > So you don't know enough about a topic, yet you've formed very strong > opinions, and have attempted to force them on others? Again the false "force" argument. I don't remembering forcing anyone, but maybe I have alzheimer's, who knows... > >My older GeForce that I got rid of isn't any longer supported by NVidia. > > That is patently untrue. All GeForce cards are still fully supported > by NVIDIA. Was some time ago, but this list does seem to be longer now, and maybe it includes it. I got rid of it 5 or 6 years ago, so I can't remember anymore the precise model. (list: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html ) > >I wouldn't be able to use FC7 in that computer. Fortunately I bought a > >fully supported ATI card, a 7200, and today lo and behold... I even get > >a fast compiz there! > > > >What about PPC people? Are they forbidden to have a graphics card > >because NVidia doesn't care about them? > > What leads you to that conclusion? No PPC driver here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html Also no driver for OpenBSD people. > >*sigh* This is even denser that an idiot who defends DRM. > > Seeing as how nearly every comment & opinion that you've stated above > is based on false information, I don't think you're in any position to > be calling anyone dense or an idiot. Suits you fine, it would seem. Rui -- P'tang! Today is Pungenday, the 32nd day of Confusion in the YOLD 3173 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
