Les Mikesell wrote: > Aside from not liking the default, I don't like the obscure way it is > broken. Repeating that it is broken doesn't make it so. It is not configured to your liking. It is absolutely not broken. As shipped sendmail will accept mail quite happily from the localhost. It is working just as it was intended, which is to be very limited to avoid potential problems with services running by default that many users do not want or need exposed to the outside world. > Other services that are disabled generally have standard and obvious > was to make them work normally. Sendmail itself is obscure and non-obvious. I'm not surprised that the method for configuring it not to listen is similar. I made a go at using sendmail back in the RH5 and 6 days. I thought it was ridiculously obtuse in its configuration and I ditched it. Not only did it save me many security holes, it made my life much easier by using a sane MTA. Fortunately, sendmail seems to have worked quite hard on not having so many holes these days, but it is still a PITA to configure as far as I can tell. The steps to enable it to listen on other interfaces used to be part of the release notes but it doesn't seem to be there in FC6. So that part is a little harder for new users than it used to be. But again, I think that it is not at all unreasonable to expect that those setting up a mail server should have to do a little bit of reading to achieve that goal. >>File a bug and make your case to someone that might be able to do >>something about it. > > I don't think it's a surprise to anyone. It was done on purpose. Who said anything about it being a surprise? If you seriously think the default sucks and/or could be done better, then you should file a bug and make that case (Alan kindly supplied some potential arguments for you). If you don't want to file a bug and potentially have the issue resolved in a better way than it is now, then I don't see what calling it broken here will achieve. -- Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ====================================================================== Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope. -- Freewheelin' Franklin
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