Re: FC6 through the rear view mirror

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On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 15:47 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> I have found FC6 to be the least installable of all the Fedoras.
> That is my conclusion but first some caveats. I am trying to run it on a
> year 2000 Dell Optiplex GX1p. This machine ran FCx (x<6) with minimum
> problems. It is an old machine but FC6  has given me more serious
> trouble with the installation than and other Fedoras.
> 
> On the bright side it has been a learning experience but I am full of
> anxiety as to what will happen with FC7. There is something wrong with
> its construction and let me list some of the more serious problems.
> Maybe it is only with older machines but I have seen others having
> similar problems.
> 
> 1. shutdown would not turn off the machine. Finally fixed with 4 months
> of hitting my head against the wall.
> 
> 2. The system did not recognize my sound card. It showed up in the early
> boot messages but then it was lost. lspci did not list it, and it did
> not show up in modprobe.conf and when the appropriate lines were put in
> the file they were  ignored. Again after much turmoil the modprobe had
> to be run in rc.local.
> 
> 3. Once sound was enabled use of sound was ephemeral. With updates, CD
> playing which worked stopped working.
> 
> 4. Getting various video and audio sources to play also came and went.
> 
> 5. firefox configuration to use plugins properly was especially
> confusing and tedious.
> 
> 6. Using system-config-httpd to configure the web server does not really
> work and caused me the hidden problem of ending up with two Listen
> commands in the configuration files which took a while to trouble shoot.
> 
> 7. And today's special, rpm's that are removed by yum erase for
> dependencies are not re-installed with a yum install
> 
> There were other things but these were the biggies. Now I ma not trying
> to start a rant and for people to say it worked for me is not helpful.
> What was helpful in getting things to work was advice I received from
> people on the list. Again all this worked fairly well in previous
> Fedoras on this machine so I can't really blame the machine.
> I am not bitter I just want the installation process to be smoother and
> for it to work as it has previously.
> -- 
> Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 

Forgive my bluntness, but if you are not looking to start a rant thread,
what exactly -are- you trying to achieve?
You refuse to report the bugs in an organize fashion.
You mix software and hardware problems.
You seem to complain bout missing support for patent encumbered media
types - ignoring the fact that these doesn't having nothing to do with
Fedora to begin with.

As I see it, you are either part of the problem or part of the problem
or part of the solution.
As you refuse to help (E.g. by reporting bugs, etc) , you are part of
the problem.

- Gilboa

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