-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charles Tuckey wrote: > On 1/10/07, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wednesday 10 January 2007 04:32, Boris Glawe wrote: >> >Gene Heskett schrieb: >> >> On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:52, Boris Glawe wrote: >> >> And I put this back in the list. >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> I don't like beagle, since I don't need it and it eats 50% of my >> >>> system resources. The CPU usage is regularly at 100% for example (has >> >>> beagle ever heard something about a nice value??), because beagle >> >>> runs pdftotext on pdf files, which I haven't touched for years. >> >>> >> >>> greets Boris >> >> >> >> Call up a session of yumex as root, and have yum remove it? ISTR >> >> there were 3 items to remove. But before it removed beagle-gui, I >> >> tried to get it to run and it, if it existed at all, wasn't in the >> >> $PATH, so I removed them. >> > >> >That's what I did (actually I'm preferring yum at the terminal)! >> >The problem remains: If beagle is installed it's hardly possible to >> >disable it! Though a user disables beagle (with the configuration GUI), >> >it will be reenabled a few system reboots later. I don't know the reason >> >of how beagle can suddenly be active after having disabled it. Maybe >> >it's because of some system updates, that overwrite my configuration, >> >maybe it has some other reasons. >> > >> >And in addition: An unexperienced user does not find out, that he/she is >> >working with something called "beagle" at all. Neither the configuration >> >GUI nor any search tools show me, that beagle does the searching job. >> >The CPU usage is also caused by other tools (pdftotext, for example) and >> >not by beagle itself. To find out, that it's beagle who i's to blame, >> >requires a lot of knowledge. A task like "which of my directories >> >consumes more then 100MB of space" cannot be easily done by beginners. >> >Also questions like "which process has started pdftotext", can only be >> >asked, if you know at all, that there's something like a process >> >hierarchy in unix. Beagle is definitely addressed to unexperienced >> > users. >> > >> >Fedora's acceptance suffers from tools like beagle, as it makes the >> >system slow and and can hardly be identified as the reason for the >> >performance loss. >> > >> >The confusion is perfect, if beagle suddenly running, though it was >> >explicitly disabled before!! >> > >> >> Let us know please when this thing is ready for prime time, and what >> >> exactly its supposed to do for us when it runs. >> > >> >Well, searching with beagle is extremely fast and saves a lot of system >> >resources - at the cost, that I haven't left any system resources in >> >the time when I don't search things on my desktop :-) >> > >> >greets Boris >> >> Sorry, to me its a waste of time and electricity to have it on a system. >> On this FC6 system, and let me repeat this, there is no beagle related >> option anywhere in the menu's that is capable of showing so much as a >> blank open windowframe. >> >> The most obvious thingy was 'kerry beagle' right on the main menu, which >> was a total no-op, no launch feedback adjacent to the mouse cursor, >> nothing. >> >> There was another entry someplace, a 'beagle configuration' I believe, >> that did cause the cursor to dance for the usual 30 second timeout, but >> in the end did nothing, and the find selection on the menu takes a good >> 20 seconds to open a screen, but then when a search term is entered that >> you know is existant, eventually comes back empty. Does this use a >> database beagle has built? In which case it was defective I assume. >> >> The worst part is that when I had removed all traces of it I could find >> with yumex's search pattern set to 'beagle', then I had to go through the >> menu's by hand and remove those entries. The rpm -e should have taken >> care of that IMO. >> >> Now if they come up with an update that actually does something >> worthwhile, I might put it back in. >> >> -- >> Cheers, Gene >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above >> message by Gene Heskett are: >> Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> > > Like most of the rest of you who replied to this thread I was > wondering what Beagle did as well. It was annoying me but hadn't got > so bad that I had removed it. I had a vague idea that it could search > my harddrive for me but I use 'locate' for that. > > Based on Matthew Saltzman's advice I looked it up at Places->Search. > And, hey!, it's not that bad. It finds search terms within documents > which can be extremely handy. It's a lot easier than trying to use > 'find' and 'grep' for that job. As well there are preferences where > you can control (somewhat) how beagle behaves when it does its > indexing. > > Of course, if it's running on tilt and thrashing your machine then I > don't suppose this functionality is going to make you feel better > about it.... > > charlie > I also find it much better than history for finding that web page I was looking for... Now if I could get it to index Thunderbird instead of Evolution.. but that's another E-Mail Scott -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFplAH5mBKdb7VQEcRAoz3AKCfKzgH7jvD8v5I1YQnzUCOUUJ2LACgi7Rk 19NLpgAhxQJO/S1WZXhHtVk= =ZWj5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
