Hi; I am top posting because I am adding to my previous post, not commenting further on its content. I can now get a clean startup, sort of, if I disable or remove everything in the Start up programs tab; remove every thing I don't want in the Current programs tab, make sure to trash the sessions manager program each and every time I change anything in the sessions manager. Always leave the save 'Automatically save changes to session' selected. If unselected, startup reverts to a mish-mash of programs. Since nothing else works the way it should, I will file a bug. On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:43 -0500, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > Before I submit a series of bugs to bugzilla, I would like to check if > others are having the same problems. Specifically with Gnome Sessions > Manager: > > Documentation: The session manager does not match the help documents. > 1) "Automatically save changes to session: .... If you do not select > this option, when you end your session the Logout Confirmation dialog > displays > a Save current setup option." This does not exist on the log out > dialogue even though it used to. Logically it might not be any longer > necessary, but, when nothing else is working the way it is expected to, > then it would be reassuring if not down right useful to save the current > setup option. > > 2) "Sessions: ... When you log in on GDM, you choose > a session. When you choose a session, you can select which of the > multiple > sessions to use." No 'named' sessions appear on GDM in the sessions box. > > Under the Current Session tab: > 3) "Order: ... To specify the startup order of an application, select > the application in the table. Use the Order spin box to specify the > startup order value." I see no discernible change in order whether > setting up the 'default' session or a 'named' session. > > 4) "Trash: Does not start when you start a GNOME session." Yes it does. > The trashcan symbol is ignored. > > 5) "Settings: Starts automatically when you start a session. > Applications with this style usually have a low startup order, and store > your configuration settings for GNOME and session-managed applications." > All programs start with some preset configuration no matter what I try. > I particularly wanted to set my own size, postion, etc. in some programs > like Evolution, Xchat-Gnome and others. This preset remains active in > both a 'default' session and a 'named' session. > > 6) "Remove: Click on the Remove button to delete the selected > application from the list. The application is removed from the session > manager, and closed. If you save the session after doing this any > deleted applications will not start the next time you start a session." > Not true. I have removed in the Current Session many programs such as: > Nautilus, Epiphany, and Sessions Manager. They all reapper. At logon > nautilus opens in my home directory, epipany over lays it and sessions > manager is on top. > > Under the Startup Programs tab: > 7) "Additional startup programs: ... If you specify more than one > startup application, use the Priority spin box to specify the startup > order of the each application. The startup order is the order in which > you want the startup applications to start." There is no spin box to > set priorities. > > 8) "To edit a startup application, select the startup application, then > click on the Edit button. The Edit Startup Program dialog is displayed. > Use the dialog to modify the command and the startup order for the > startup application." The start up dialogue starts filled with all same > programs as the Current Session Tab. Most have greyed out edit and > delete buttons. Most programs have an '--sm-disable' extension. It is > confusing to know what the enable/disable button does in the face of > such an extension. Does it enable or does it disable? Command options > do not work in application commands in the session manager. Notecase > jots.ncd on the command line and in a launcher opens the notecase > program with the jots.ncd file showing. The same command will not > select any file when opening a session. > > Besides the documentation problems, an iconfied program will not start > iconified; when multiple programs are started in a worksheet they all > start huddled in the upper left corner. Most annoying, there seems to > be this preset configuration, not to be confused with the 'default' > session, that I am unable to undo no matter what I try or how many hours > I spent on it. It used to work for me in FC3, FC4 and FC5. > > The net effect is that I have no sessions management, and, I can't work > the way I am used to. > > If other people are facing the same dilemmas, please respond. I will > submit the bugs, if they are bugs. I've checked bugzilla for similar > problems and so far I am the only one with a complaint. > > -- > Regards Bill > -- Regards Bill -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
