unattributed text: >>> sometimes it is justified, I have .cn .kr .tw and .br to name some blocked >>> because of the extreme levels of spam Tim: >> It's just another form of internet racism, with all the problems that >> racism has always had: Ignorance causing harm to others. Entire top >> level domains (or countries, or services, etc.) get discriminated >> against, because of the actions of some. And the "I doesn't cause >> problems for me" attitude (i.e. "I am unaware of any problems, so I >> think that there are none") allowing it to continue to cause harm to >> others. Res: > I disagree, you have to evaluate the amount of time staff are wasting on > it as well, when your CSR's complain that theres so much of it, > with no common ISP, the best way is to take them out, it might cause some > collateral damamge, yes I accept that when I approve and TLD ban but then > support staff and my technical staff could do the more important things > they were actually employed to do in the first place. The very definition of what I outlined: Contemptuous racism. You've tarred everyone with the same brush. You've decided that you're going to ostracise everyone. And you've fallen into the unintelligent position of "we don't consider it to be a problem". I see the same arguments in another common frame: Some moron webmaster make it impossible for people to use their website. And they claim that "we've not had any complaints about it," completely disregarding that they've made it impossible for those affected by it to register a complaint. > The decision to block a TLD is not made lightly, and its not taken because > we got a few hundred spams either, there must be thousands of it and over > several days, for a first time block, and a second time block gets them > in there for a couple months, and third time, they deserve to be > blocked for life. I'd say it is taken far too lightly, and with scant regard for the consequences. Blocking all of .biz, for example, because of *some* abusing it, then saying that it deserves permanent blocking because of them is an incredibly unintelligent response. The rest that use it without being abusive have no part in the abuse, and no control over the abusers, are now being abused by you. Ignorant racism, and this is yet another case of it, has NEVER been justifiable. It's also ignorant in another regards: That method is not the way to go about blocking spam. It doesn't block "spam," it's not even doing any check whether it is or not spam. -- (Currently testing FC5, but still running FC4, if that's important.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
