Re: Playing MP3s

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

 



Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

So, why is it that I can not play an MP3 through any of the KDE audio players that come installed 9with you install the KDE stuff) and yet when I manually compiled and installed XMMS, I can play them just fine?

Noatrun simply crashes when I try to play an mp3. Other programs won't do anything when I try to load a file up for playing. But XMMS works fine, which tells me it's not the hardware. Something else is causing the other players not to work. But what?


The issue with MP3 files is not technical at all, but legal.

MP3 is a patented algorithm, and therefore, closed-source.

Fedora /will not/ distribute anything that plays closed-source stuff. In some jurisdictions where Fedora is accessible, that would be illegal.

So what many of us end up doing is either (a) installing a third-party module to enable XMMS to play MP3 files anyway, or (b) do what you did: build XMMS yourself, with the MP3 capabilities preserved.

Now anyone else here will likely tell you to search the archives of the Fedora Users' list for the full context of the discussion of MP3 files. And I will say that perhaps the MP3 issue has been "talked to death."

But before I send you to the archives, I'd like to say a few words about something that's simply missing from the MP3 debate, and that is: /where do MP3 files come from/.

Some contributors to this list impress me as having the opinion that most, if not all, MP3 content comes from individual users who convert, or "rip," Audio CD content into this closed-source format, "just because all the players out there play MP3." I wouldn't know about the reality of that situation. I have never played /any/ music on any device other than my computer or an Audio CD or DVD player. (Am I the last remaining non-adopter of iPod or iTunes? Maybe. I don't really care.) My musical tastes are somewhat more limited than those of most people here, so that I am more likely to tune in a radio station that plays "my kind" of music than to try to record single tracks from CD albums to another medium. So this "format war" doesn't really affect me.

My advice to anyone who /does/ have Audio CD content that they would like to play "on the road" is to /abandon/ MP3 as a format and instead look for devices that use the /OGG Vorbis/ format. Now /that/ format is another "lossy compression format," and a lot of software I have seen that will read MP3 will also read OGG Vorbis. The difference is that OGG Vorbis is open-source, while MP3 is closed. OGG Vorbis is just as good as is MP3 for the purpose of copying Audio CD content to a more "portable" format. So if /you/ have the original, uncompressed (or compressed by lossless compression only) sound content and want to know where to rip it to, rip to OGG Vorbis. You'll save yourself a lot of headaches.

The problem is that a lot of /original multimedia content/ is in the MP3 format. Users who want access to /this/ kind of file have a problem: they often can't access the content in any other format. MP3 is all they have access to. And if they /could/ convert MP3 back to WAV (which is the uncompressed format) and then to OGG Vorbis, they're going to lose some parts of the file that they can't afford to lose--because MP3 and OGG Vorbis differ /significantly/ in those parts of the original sound that they discard. (I'll give you an example: some years ago I acquired an excellent recording of the Red Army Chorus singing the State Hymn to the USSR. That's an MP3 file. Now if I choose not to get an MP3-friendly routine for my copy of XMMS, then what do I do with that file? Play it only on a Windows box? Somehow I don't think that's exactly in the spirit of Linux.)

That problem isn't going away any time soon. The resolution, if it happens at all, will come /only/ when open-source devotees become a big enough "market share" that multimedia Webmasters will at least make their content available in open-source formats--say, "Click here for the MP3 and there for the OGG Vorbis file." And of course it illustrates one of the last hurdles that the open-source movement now faces: the overwhelming prevalence of closed-source multimedia formats on the Internet today.

Temlakos

--
fedora-list mailing list
fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
[Index of Archives]     [Older Fedora Users]     [Fedora Announce]     [Fedora Package Announce]     [EPEL Announce]     [Fedora Magazine]     [Fedora News]     [Fedora Summer Coding]     [Fedora Laptop]     [Fedora Cloud]     [Fedora Advisory Board]     [Fedora Education]     [Fedora Security]     [Fedora Scitech]     [Fedora Robotics]     [Fedora Maintainers]     [Fedora Infrastructure]     [Fedora Websites]     [Anaconda Devel]     [Fedora Devel Java]     [Fedora Legacy]     [Fedora Desktop]     [Fedora Fonts]     [ATA RAID]     [Fedora Marketing]     [Fedora Management Tools]     [Fedora Mentors]     [SSH]     [Fedora Package Review]     [Fedora R Devel]     [Fedora PHP Devel]     [Kickstart]     [Fedora Music]     [Fedora Packaging]     [Centos]     [Fedora SELinux]     [Fedora Legal]     [Fedora Kernel]     [Fedora OCaml]     [Coolkey]     [Virtualization Tools]     [ET Management Tools]     [Yum Users]     [Tux]     [Yosemite News]     [Gnome Users]     [KDE Users]     [Fedora Art]     [Fedora Docs]     [Asterisk PBX]     [Fedora Sparc]     [Fedora Universal Network Connector]     [Libvirt Users]     [Fedora ARM]

  Powered by Linux