Re: *tap* *tap* Is this thing on?

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On 11/25/21 01:32, Rich Mattes wrote:
On 11/22/21 1:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Hi, possible Robotics SIG folks!

I know a lot of the base packages in https://labs.fedoraproject.org/en/robotics/ are still being maintained and updated, but I'm curious about the future of the Suite itself.

I've gotten some pings recently about ROS (https://www.ros.org/), and wonder if any of the folks here (if anyone is still around) has any interest.

I'm also curious if Robotics Suite still makes sense as a spin, or if might be better as a set of containers and use case for Fedora IoT.

If anyone's still around, I'd love your thoughts!

Hi Matthew,

I've been keeping the spin alive in the hopes that it's useful to someone, but I haven't put a lot of time into improving/maintaining it lately.  Partly because somewhere along the line the tools to build images changed and I haven't been able to build or test anything outside of koji for a long time, and partly because I don't have a lot of free time to take care of it in addition to my packages.  If someone has a better idea for how to distribute the robotics-related packages, and has time to do the work, that's great.  I don't think IoT is a particularly good match - the spin is more focused on providing a development environment and not an embedded/deployable image.

A lot of us are interested in packaging ROS for Fedora.  In fact, one of the early efforts of this SIG was to get some of the core ROS packages into Fedora proper a long time ago[1], but we didn't have enough effort to follow through and the project has long since been abandoned.  Till has been vastly more successful with his copr packaging tools.

Open Robotics is starting to build ROS 2 packages for RHEL8[2][3], maybe there's a path to working with upstream to support fedora as part of their process?  I'm certainly willing to discuss a path forward for making ROS easier to use on Fedora as well.


I'd definitely be interested in packaging ROS2 and/or getting the ROS packages into Fedora proper. Working with upstream sounds like a reasonable approach :) There's been also some discussion with upstream a while ago:
https://github.com/ros/rosdistro/issues/4918#issuecomment-807974543

Somewhat unsurprisingly, they have a slightly different perspective on things. They come from ROS and want to make their build tools somehow independent of the distro. We as Fedora packagers on the other hand have a specific distro in mind and want to make the build process independent of the software we are building, so that's definitely a mismatch :) Which is probably why the discussion did not lead to any results. But back then, they said they do not plan to build for Fedora or RHEL, apparently they have changed their minds. I haven't looked into the ROS RPMs they are providing. Has anyone used them?
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