* 1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 254 o 1.1 Announcements + 1.1.1 Fedora Announcement News # 1.1.1.1 Election Results for FAmSCo, FESCo, and Fedora Board seats # 1.1.1.2 Fedora Board # 1.1.1.3 FESCo # 1.1.1.4 FAmSCo + 1.1.2 Fedora Development News # 1.1.2.1 exiv2 soname bump # 1.1.2.2 poppler soname bump in rawhide # 1.1.2.3 Changes against 0.15.1: # 1.1.2.4 API changes against 0.15.1: # 1.1.2.5 libsigsegv-2.9 update, abi bump + 1.1.3 Fedora Events # 1.1.3.1 Upcoming Events (Dec 2010 - Feb 2011) # 1.1.3.2 Past Events # 1.1.3.3 Additional information o 1.2 Planet Fedora + 1.2.1 General o 1.3 Marketing o 1.4 Fedora In the News + 1.4.1 Fedora 12 approaches end of life (The H Online - UK) + 1.4.2 Fedora renews committees (Pro Linux - Germany) o 1.5 Translation + 1.5.1 Troubles with translate.fedoraproject.org + 1.5.2 FLP FAQ Updated + 1.5.3 New Members in FLP o 1.6 Design + 1.6.1 Start Page o 1.7 Security Advisories + 1.7.1 Fedora 14 Security Advisories + 1.7.2 Fedora 13 Security Advisories + 1.7.3 Fedora 12 Security Advisories - Fedora Weekly News Issue 254 - Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 254[1] for the week ending December 10, 2010. What follows are some highlights from this issue. We begin this week's issue with announcements from the Fedora Project, including election Results for FAmSCo, FESCo, and Fedora Board seats and several development announcement updates to rawhide. In news from the Planet Fedora, work on improving the Anaconda and syslinux User Experience, "This Week in Anaconda #6", recent improvements to systemd, and an invitation to help get TeX Live into Fedora. In Marketing team news, a query about survey tools availability for the Fedora Project, improving our schedule by changing reminders of task into actionable items, and Marketing Meeting Minutes from this past week. Fedora In the News this week offers two articles on Fedora from the trade press in the UK and Germany. In Translation team news, troubles with the Transiflex instance on translate.fedoraproject.org, and updated Fedora Localization Project (FLP) FAQ, and news members of the FLP for Russian, Kazakh and Spanish. In Design team news, a fresh take on redesigning start.fedoraproject.org and discussion around the mockups. We finish off with a review of security-related packages released over the past week for Fedora 14, 13 and 12. An audio version of some issues of FWN - FAWN - are available! You can listen to existing issues[2] on the Internet Archive. If anyone is interested in helping spread the load of FAWN production, please contact us! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[3]. We welcome reader feedback: news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue254 2. http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22FWN%22 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project, including general announcements[1], development announcements[2] and Events[3]. Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/ 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/ 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events --- Fedora Announcement News --- The announcement list is always exclusive for the Fedora Community. Please, visit the past announcements at[1] 1. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/announce ---- Election Results for FAmSCo, FESCo, and Fedora Board seats ---- Jared K. Smith announced[1]: "I'm happy to announce the results of our recent round of elections for at-large seats on the Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo. The results are as follows: ---- Fedora Board ---- There were two open seats on the Fedora Board this election cycle. A total of 239 ballots were cast. Due to the system of range voting that we use in Fedora elections, this means that each of the five candidates could receive up to 1195 votes (239 ballots multiplied by 5 candidates). Votes | Candidate 690 | Joerg Simon (irc: kital, FAS: jsimon) 654 | Jaroslav Reznik (irc: jreznik, FAS: jreznik) 554 | David Nalley (irc: ke4qqq, FAS: ke4qqq) 453 | Sandro Mathys (irc: red_alert, FAS: red) 289 | David Ramsey (irc: dramsey, FAS: dramsey) I'm pleased to welcome Joerg Simon and Jaroslav Reznik to serve full two-term positions on the Fedora Board. -- FESCo There were four FESCo seats up for election this cycle. A total of 240 ballots were cast in the FESCo election. Each of the eight candidates could receive up to 1920 votes (240 ballots multiplied by 8 candidates). Votes | Candidate 1168 | Christoph Wickert (irc: cwickert, FAS: cwickert) 1136 | Adam Jackson (irc: ajax, FAS: ajax) 923 | Matthew Garrett (irc: mjg59, FAS: mjg59) 895 | Marcela MaÅlÃÅovà (irc: mmaslano, FAS: mmaslano) 866 | Peter Jones (irc: pjones, FAS: pjones) 711 | Stephen Gallagher (irc: sgallagh, FAS: sgallagh) 562 | Justin M. Forbes (irc: jforbes, FAS: jforbes) 445 | David Ramsey (irc: dramsey, FAS: dramsey) The top four candidates are Christoph Wickert, Adam Jackson, Matthew Garrett, and Marcela MaÅlÃÅovÃ. They will each serve a full two-term position in FESCo. -- FAmSCo All seven seats on FAmSCo were up for re-election this cycle. There were a total of 125 ballots cast in the FAmSCo election. Each of the twelve candidates could receive up to 1500 votes (125 ballots multiplied by 12 candidates). Votes | Candidate 729 | Neville A. Cross (FAS: yn1v, IRC: yn1v) 703 | Larry Cafiero (FAS: lcafiero, IRC: lcafiero) 686 | Rahul Sundaram (FAS: sundaram, IRC: mether) 586 | Gerard Braad (FAS: gbraad, IRC: gbraad) 572 | Igor Soares (FAS: igor, IRC: igorps) 568 | Pierros Papadeas (FAS: ppapadeas, IRC: liknus) 547 | Caius Chance (FAS: kaio, IRC: kaio) 525 | David Ramsey (FAS: dramsey, IRC: dramsey) 477 | Guillermo Gomez Savino (FAS: gomix, IRC: gomix) 452 | Antonio Salles (FAS: asalles, IRC: antoniosalles) 433 | Zoltan Hoppar (FAS: zoltanh721, IRC: zoltanh7211) 331 | Marcus Moeller (FAS: mmoeller, IRC: marcus_) I welcome Neville A. Cross, Larry Cafiero, Rahul Sundaram, Gerard Braad, Igor Soares, Pierros Papadeas, and Caius Chance to serve for two terms on FAmSCo. I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank all those who have previously served on the Fedora Board or FAmSCo or FESCo for their hard work and dedication to Fedora. I'd also like to thank all the candidates and volunteers who participated in this round of elections. Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader" 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2010-November/002893.html --- Fedora Development News --- The development list[1] is intended to be a LOW TRAFFIC announce-only list for Fedora development. Acceptable Types of Announcements * Policy or process changes that affect developers. * Infrastructure changes that affect developers. * Tools changes that affect developers. * Schedule changes * Freeze reminders Unacceptable Types of Announcements * Periodic automated reports (violates the INFREQUENT rule) * Discussion * Anything else not mentioned above 1. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce ---- exiv2 soname bump ---- Rex Dieter announced[1]: "exiv2-0.21 was released recently, and includes a soname bump. I plan on importing this into rawhide next week sometime, if all goes well. Here's a scratch build for testing[2] I've done a few test builds of the items below, and the only one that ftbfs is pyexiv2 (a usual suspect, being a low-level binding). and a list of affected pkgs, $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide-source --archlist=src \ --whatrequires exiv2-devel | sort darktable-0:0.7-1.fc15.src geeqie-0:1.0-4.fc14.src gipfel-0:0.3.2-5.fc15.src gnome-color-manager-0:2.91.2-1.fc15.src gnome-commander-3:1.2.8.8-3.fc15.1.src gpscorrelate-0:1.6.1-2.fc14.src gthumb-0:2.12.1-1.fc15.src hugin-0:2010.2.0-1.fc15.src immix-0:1.3.2-9.fc14.src kdebase-runtime-0:4.5.80-3.fc15.src kdegraphics-7:4.5.80-2.fc15.src kipi-plugins-0:1.6.0-1.fc15.src koffice-3:2.2.84-2.fc15.src kphotoalbum-0:4.1.1-7.fc15.src krename-0:4.0.5-1.fc15.src libextractor-0:0.6.2-1503.fc15.src libgexiv2-0:0.2.0-1.fc15.src merkaartor-0:0.16.3-1.fc15.src pyexiv2-0:0.2.2-2.fc15.src qtpfsgui-0:1.9.3-5.fc14.src rawstudio-0:1.2-6.fc15.20100907svn3521.src strigi-0:0.7.2-6.fc15.src ufraw-0:0.17-1.fc14.src 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-December/000728.html 2. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2636872 ---- poppler soname bump in rawhide ---- Marek Kasik announced[1][2] "Hi, I plan to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.15.3. There are some API changes (see below) and 1 soname bump of libpoppler.so.9 to libpoppler.so.11. You can test it against your package with this scratch-build[3] I'll ask release engineers for chain-build of it in the middle of next week. Regards, Marek ----- Changes against 0.15.1: ----- core: * Improve shadings and antialias in the Splash backend (Bug #30436) * Linearization improvements * Small improvements to the Arthur backend * Fix calculation of the size of some pages (Bug #30784) * Fix crashes in broken documents * Improve rendering of radial shadings * Open a broken file (Bug #31861) * Correct parsing of linearization table (Bug #31627) * Find fonts inside patterns (Bug #31948) * [win32] Simplify strtok_r implementation * Use a std::vector instead of a var-length-array of chars * Fix crashes in broken files * Use sets instead of arrays for looking for duplicate fonts qt4: * Add Page::renderToPainter() method * Add setDebugErrorFunction() method cpp: * Add the hability to render pages to an image * Include correction utils: * Add -p flag to pdfimages * pdffonts: Remove duplicated code build system: * Remove -ansi flag for cywin and mingw ----- API changes against 0.15.1: ----- removed goo/GooVector.h new file Hints.h new file Linearization.h new file cpp/poppler-page-renderer.h All "GooVector<>" has been replaced with "std::vector<>". cpp/poppler-image.h - new public function in class image: bytes_per_row poppler/Dict.h - API change of a public function in class Dict: lookup - new public function in class Dict: hasKey Form.h - API changes in constructors of classes FormField, FormFieldButton, FormFieldText, FormFieldChoice, FormFieldSignature - API change in a public function of class Form: createFieldFromDict Function.h - API change in constructor of class StitchingFunction Object.h - API change in functions of class Object: fetch, dictLookup OutputDev.h - API change in a public function of class OutputDev: useShadedFills - new public functions in class OutputDev gouraudTriangleShadedFill, patchMeshShadedFill Parser.h - new versions of a public function in class Parser: getObj PDFDoc.h - new public functions in class PDFDoc getLinearization, getPage PSOutputDev.h - API changes in constructors of class PSOutputDev - API changes in a public function of class PSOutputDev: useShadedFills() - a public function removed from PSOutputDev: writeDocSetup qt4/poppler-qt4.h - new public enum in class Page: PainterFlag - new public function in class Page: renderToPainter splash/SplashBitmap.h - new public function in class SplashBitmap: getRowPad splash/SplashFontFile.h - destructor of class SplashFontSrc moved to private section splash/Splash.h - new public functions in class Splash: shadedFill, gouraudTriangleShadedFill splash/SplashPattern.h - API change in a public function of class SplashPattern: getColor - API change in a public function of class SplashSolidColor: getColor " 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-December/000729.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-December/000730.html 3. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2636922 ---- libsigsegv-2.9 update, abi bump ---- Rex Dieter announced[1] "I'm planning a libsigsegv-2.9 (rawhide) update relatively soon which includes an abi change. According to repquery, only the following packages should be affected: * clisp * gnu-smalltalk (I'll help take care of these requisite rebuilds) -- Rex" 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2010-November/000727.html --- Fedora Events --- Fedora events are the exclusive and source of marketing, learning and meeting all the fellow community people around you. So, please mark your agenda with the following events to consider attending or volunteering near you! ---- Upcoming Events (Dec 2010 - Feb 2011) ---- * North America (NA)[1] * Central & South America (LATAM): none * Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[2] * India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[3] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY11_Q4_.28Dec._2010_-_Feb._2011.29 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY11_Q4_.28Dec._2010_-_Feb._2011.29_2 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY11_Q4_.28Dec._2010_-_Feb._2011.29_3 ---- Past Events ---- Archive of Past Fedora Events[1] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PastEvents -- Additional information * Reimbursements -- reimbursement guidelines. * Budget -- budget for the current quarter (as distributed by FAMSCo). * Sponsorship -- how decisions are made to subsidize travel by community members. * Organization -- event organization, budget information, and regional responsibility. * Event reports -- guidelines and suggestions. * LinuxEvents -- a collection of calendars of Linux events. -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin 1. http://planet.fedoraproject.org --- General --- MÃirÃn Duffy has been working[1] on improving the Anaconda and syslinux User Experience. It's the first thing that anyone sees when they try to install Fedora or boot from live media. But don't worry, you can help too. "I wrote up some instructions on how you can try this prototype out on your own. Itâs really, really easy." In "This Week in Anaconda #6", Chris Lumens updated[2] us on some other happenings in the Anaconda world. Probably the most interesting discussion was over the possibility of updating Anaconda after a release. "The basic problem is that after a Fedora release, anaconda never gets updated though various other tools that anaconda does use do get updated. This isn't a problem on most installation media because we never remake the media. It is, however, a problem for people doing livecd respins. What'll happen is that anaconda will assume a particular library call for NetworkManager (just to pick on a component at random) that exists when the release happens, but changes in an update." Lennart Poettering summarized[3] a number of the recent improvements to systemd. If you aren't so sure what systemd is, in part 4 of "systemd for Adminstrators", Lennart explained[4] how killing of system daemons works. If you have been having trouble getting Fedora 14 to boot as LiveUSB media, Marc Ferguson has[5] the answer. Richard Hughes created[6] mockups of new gnome-control-center power management configuration pages. If you are interested in helping TeX Live in Fedora, Tom Callaway offered[7] ways that you can help. "One of the remaining big ticket items for legal audit in Fedora is TeX Live. A few years ago, we got a version of TeX Live into Fedora, and after the fact, we discovered that the licensing on much of it was confusing or non-free." Alex Hudson analyzed[8] an interesting legal case that is currently unfolding, SAS Institute Inc v World Programming Limited. "The basic story is that the Judge in this case is deeply unsure of the boundary of copyright. For those who donât know, SAS is a statistical package which is both popular and influential, and to a large extent can be thought of as a programming development environment. WPL, the defendants, wrote software which could interpret SAS programs...If nothing else, this highlights that no law is truly ever settled, and possibly portents to more movement in this area in the future: Iâve described before how the UK Government is making noises about revisiting intellectual property laws..." Mark J Cox published[9] an updated piece on "Vulnerability and threat mitigation features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux." Richard W.M. Jones wondered[10] about a potential new feature for git, automating dependency analysis of patches: "The half-baked idea is whether we can write an automatic tool which can untangle these dependencies from the raw git commits? (Or whether such a tool exists already, I cannot find one) There would be one important practical use for such a tool. When cherry picking commits for the stable branch, I would like to know which previous commits that the commit Iâm trying to apply depends on. This gives me extra information: I can decide that applying this commit is too disruptive â perhaps it depends on an earlier feature which I donât want to add. I can decide to go back and apply the older commits, or that a manual backport is the best way." 1. http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/fedora-installation-user-experience-improvements-syslinux/ 2. http://www.bangmoney.org/serendipity/index.php?/archives/159-This-Week-in-Anaconda-6.html 3. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-update-2.html 4. http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-4.html 5. http://www.fergytech.com/2010/11/getting-fedora-14-liveusb-to-boot/ 6. http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2010/11/22/gnome-control-center-in-gnome-3/ 7. http://spot.livejournal.com/316126.html 8. http://www.alexhudson.com/2010/11/26/copyright-changes-ahead-for-the-uk-sas-v-wpl-goes-to-europe/ 9. http://www.awe.com/mark/blog/20101130.html 10. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/half-baked-ideas-git-commit-dependency-analysis/ -- Marketing -- In this section, we cover the happenings for Fedora Marketing Project from 2010-11-24 to 2010-11-30. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Contributing Writer: Neville A. Cross Pascal Calarco pointed[1] some research made by Ubuntu about their weekly news. Something that we can consider doing. He also pointed[2] the efforts to have a survey tool in Fedora's infrastructure. Paul Frields sugested[3] that we can improve our schedule by changing reminders of task into actionable items. This also looks for a more constant flow of information, rather that everything near release time. As usual Marketing Meeting Minutes[4] for this week meeting are available for the public. 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-November/013604.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-November/013605.html 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-November/013608.html 4. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-11-30/fedora_marketing.2010-11-30-21.00.html -- Fedora In the News -- In this section, we cover news from the trade press and elsewhere that is re-posted to the Fedora Marketing list[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/ --- Fedora 12 approaches end of life (The H Online - UK) --- Rahul Sundaram forwarded[1] another review of Fedora 14, which sums up their experience with: "Fedora Project developer Kevin Fenzi has issued a reminder that Fedora 12, code named "Constantine", will reach its end of life (EOL) on Thursday, the 2nd of December, 2010. Originally released in mid-November of last year, Fedora 11 featured the 2.6.31 Linux kernel, version 2.28 of the GNOME desktop environment, KDE 4.3 and a number of software updates. As of the 2nd of December, no new updates, including security updates and critical fixes, will be available. The developers strongly advise all Fedora 12 users to upgrade to Fedora 13 or 14 to continue receiving updates." The full article is available[2]. 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-November/013603.html 2. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-12-approaches-end-of-life-1143872.html --- Fedora renews committees (Pro Linux - Germany) --- Vinzenz Vietzke forwarded[1] a German language brief article in Pro Linux about the recent committee elections: "Das freie Fedora-Projekt hat neue Mitglieder in seinen Vorstand gewÃhlt sowie weitere Gremien neu- bzw. umgesetzt." "The free Fedora Project elected new members for it's board and further committees." The full article is available[2] 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-November/013606.html 2. http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/16454/fedora-erneuert-gremien.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N --- Troubles with translate.fedoraproject.org --- The woes related to the Transifex instance on translate.fedoraproject.org still continue whereby translators are facing problems accessing and submitting translations[1]. 3 tickets have already been filed on the Fedora-Infrastructure ticketing system to track the various tasks like Transifex upgradation, Cron jobs for translate.fedoraproject.org etc[2]. Translators have been requested to file new tickets if they encounter further problems. 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008396.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008416.html --- FLP FAQ Updated --- Shankar Prasad from the Kannada team has updated the FAQ[1] with the correction method to be used if translations for one language are updated for another[2]. 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008437.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008412.html --- New Members in FLP --- Yuri Khabarov (Russian)[1], Andrey Olykainen (Russian and Kazakh)[2], Fabian Barrera (Spanish)[3], Nikolay Rysev (Russian)[4], joined the FLP recently. 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008411.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008420.html 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008419.html 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2010-November/008425.html -- Design -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork --- Start Page --- Vinzenz Vietzke introduced[1] himself as a new contributor and proposed a redesign for the Fedora start page[2] "I reworked 'start.fedoraproject.org' and made some mock-ups which can be seen in the wiki[3]". Jef van Schendel pointed[4] to his own mockup and prototype[5] "Looking back I don't think I announced any of this on the Websites or Design Team mailing lists, which wasn't smart. After all, if it's not on the list, it didn't happen. ;)" and provided advice for Vinzenz. 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-November/003671.html 2. http://start.fedoraproject.org/ 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Vinz/Projects#Fedora_startpage 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-November/003674.html 5. http://start.stg.fedoraproject.org/ -- Security Advisories -- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce Contributing Writer: Pascal Calarco --- Fedora 14 Security Advisories --- * udev-161-7.fc14 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051418.html * dracut-006-5.fc14 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051417.html * udunits2-2.1.19-1.fc14 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051405.html * openconnect-2.26-4.fc14 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051640.html * libvpx-0.9.5-2.fc14 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051629.html --- Fedora 13 Security Advisories --- * udunits2-2.1.19-1.fc13 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051442.html * openconnect-2.26-2.fc13 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051637.html * libvpx-0.9.5-2.fc13 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051635.html --- Fedora 12 Security Advisories --- * openconnect-2.26-1.fc12 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051620.html * kdenetwork-4.4.5-4.fc12 - http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/2010-November/051692.html --- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA _______________________________________________ news mailing list news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/news
