On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 23:38 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> Wrong. > >> > >> Somebody decided _THEY_ wanted it, because _THEY_ think this bureaucracy > >> is necessary and _THEY_ proceeded with it, because _THEY_ had the powers > >> to implement it. > >> > >> FE had lived long enough to demonstrate it could prosper and live > >> without this blown-up overhead. > > > > FE didn't have updates-testing, didn't do update announcements, had a > > rolling release model etc. Those things don't work in a merged world. > > > > And why not ? They worked well enough before, didn't they? > > Don't get me wrong I'm in favor of updates announcements and of avoiding > unneeded updates. > > But lets face it (and this is in no way intended as me not appreciating Luke's > hard work) bodhi (or rather the whole set of procedures surrounding it)) sucks > rocks. > > I'm amazed now one has responded to me showing what it was like todo a new > package and what it is now (and the same goes for an important / security bug > fix) : > > [hans@... fedora-extras] common/cvs-import.sh wip/foo/foo-1.0-1.fc7.src.rpm > [hans@... fedora-extras] cvs co foo > [hans@... fedora-extras] cd foo/devel > [hans@... devel] make build > [hans@... devel] cp * ../FC-6 > [hans@... devel] cp * ../FC-5 > [hans@... devel] cd ../FC-6 > [hans@... FC-6] make clog && cvs commit -F clog && rm clog && make tag build > [hans@... FC-6] cd ../FC-5 > [hans@... FC-5] make clog && cvs commit -F clog && rm clog && make tag build > > <done> > > Now it is > [hans@... fedora-extras] common/cvs-import.sh wip/foo/foo-1.0-1.fc8.src.rpm > [hans@... fedora-extras] cvs co foo > [hans@... fedora-extras] cd foo/devel > [hans@... devel] make build > [hans@... devel] cp * ../F-7 > [hans@... devel] cp * ../FC-6 > [hans@... devel] cd ../F-7 > [hans@... F-7] make clog && cvs commit -F clog && rm clog && make tag build > [hans@... F-7] cd ../FC-6 > [hans@... FC-6] make clog && cvs commit -F clog && rm clog && make tag > <notice the missing build at the last line! > > <wait for F-7 build to complete> > <wait some more> > <goto bodhi Here you forgot one step: To write down exactly which package you built, otherwise you won't find it again 2 days later. > request f-7 package push as update, skip updates-testing, otherwise > this gets even more painfull> > <wait ...> > <remind oneself must do make build in foo/FC-6 once F-7 package is build> > <wait ...> > <really must not forget to do make build in foo/FC-6 once F-7 package is build> > <then finally, get the mail it is pushed, and then> > [hans@... FC-6] make build > > <or oops forgotten> > <some time later, hey a bugzilla ticket why I never build foo for FC-6> Ohh? I am permanently nagged with mails reminding me about EVR problesm with packages between FC-6 and FC-7, because I can't push them for FC-7 because, I could not find them in bodhi. > Please explain to me how that is an improvement in anyway? eye-candy :-) Ralf -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly
