Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20070604) Release Engineering meeting

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On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:30:43AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 16:19 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:59:23AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > >   Unfortunately this cycle we haven't done a mass rebuild, but for
> > >   now lets assume we would have. Then the build environment for an
> > >   update should be very much like the one in which the original
> > >   package was build. So the chance of introducing regressions
> > >   through build environment changes should be small.  (and in my
> > >   experience is small in general anyways).
> > 
> > I'm for mass rebuilds at freeze time, I also tagged that on this
> > thread, and I'm glad I see this parallel issue: Just to give an
> > example of what happens w/o mass rebuilds (and it had to be one of my
> > packages ... ):
> > 
> > A rebuild of apt for a minor buglet lead to different names of apt's
> > library because apt wants to embed glibc's version in its libs, so the
> > update broke synaptic and anything else that would be dependent on
> > apt (I'm glad this happens now in the updates-testing repo!).
> > 
> > The decision of apt to code in glibc' version may be questionable, but
> > it is there and I had never bumbed over it for the last 3-4 years, so
> > it was also forgotten by me. But I don't want to have to think about
> > which package may break if there is no mass-rebuild and a single
> > rebuild later will find a completely changed environment.
> > 
> > Just to add some more random rant on the decision to not mass-rebuild:
> > It was said that the glibc didn't change from FC6 to F7, still stuuf
> > like fakeroot (or fakechroot, I forget) break due to changes in
> > chownat and friends (just try installing the FC6 version on F7).
> 
> Wait... what?  Who said glibc didn't change from FC6 to F7?

Check out

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-April/msg00909.html
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-April/msg00936.html

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