On 17.05.2007 17:14, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 17/05/07, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thursday 17 May 2007 07:55:18 Josh Boyer wrote: >>> Ah. I'll try and bug DaveJ about it as we get closer and send (or have >>> him send) something out once it's know. >> This is yet another reason why external kmods are such crap piles. Often >> times the kernel is the very last package to build, and when we "know" that >> it is good, is when we actually do the spins. We don't always have time to >> wait for N kernel mods to rebuild against it and get tagged. When the kmods >> were in a separate repo this was less of an issue, but now that everything is >> in the same repo it is far far more important of an issue and one that will >> hound us quite often, like with every kernel update. > /me resists the urge to ask why Fedora doesn't move to using dkms for > kernel modules. Yes, I know, Fedora is primarily a binary > distribution. The packaging of kernel modules that Mathias has been > doing for freshrpms with dkms is living testament to the ease of that > approach though. Oh dear, I didn't resist the urge. In addition to what spot said: On the last FUDCon we discussed kernel module packaging with some people. The outcome roughly was to work on a new kernel module packaging standard solves both problems: create pre-compiled kernel-module packages that can be put in a repo for users to install; in addition create a dkms/dkms-like solution as rpm in the repo that users *can* install that will to get their modules rebuild for the current kernel (on boot?) *if* it's not available . I hope to find time after F7 is out to work on this. Ohh, further: there is certain resistance from some important folks to include kernel module packages in Fedora. Those people have some points, especially now that Core and Extras are merged. Thus I think we should create a separate repo in the scop of the Fedora projects to include kmods. Even more work (but I wrote something up already for that) :-/ CU thl -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly