On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 18:31 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 12:11 -0400, Will Woods wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 17:00 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote: > > > Will there be a way to short-circuit the announcement and just update, > > > like it was possible before? > > > > Holy Zod, no. No no no. Very no. > > > > There will be no more silent updating of packages without explanation > > or at least a *chance* for testing. > What you call testing, I call locking out updates and bug-fixes > == regression Excuse me? Who said anything about locking out updates or bug fixes? I'm just asking that packages spend a few days in a -testing repository - which is open to the entire world - to be sanity tested by QA and interested users before going to the updates repo. How does that lock out *anything*? What are you even talking about? Where are you drawing these ridiculous conclusions from? > > Yeah, I know this makes putting out updates slightly harder, > > == regression You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does. Let me get this straight: You think that being able to cram changes down the throats of ~2mil users without justification or testing is a *feature*, and that requiring (world-accessible) testing is a *bug*. > > but in my > > opinion the fact that we ever allowed this at all was a massive > > oversight, not a design feature. > > I disagree. Release early, release often is a feature, now you are > spoiling one of the fundamental working principles of Fedora. How is it spoiling anything? The packages are still available immediately after build, just like before. I think you have misunderstood what we're talking about here. -w
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