April 16th there was a problematic comps change to F7 that necessitated associated other changes. FC6 and RHEL5 Behavior ====================== - scim packages were installed only if you chose languages that need it during install, or used groupinstall on a language. - If scim is installed, it automatically runs in the desktop of any language. - Enabled-by-default is potentially annoying to non-SCIM users. However, since it is not installed by default, those users did not complain so much. Users who didn't want it were told to uninstall it (which matches Windows and Mac behavior.) - im-chooser provided a way for the user to override the system's setting, to disable SCIM, or choose a different IM software for that user's desktop. Yesterday's Change ================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=229742 We attempted to solve this rare groupremove problem by making SCIM install with the base-x group. This means that *ALL* Fedora desktop installations will have SCIM both installed and running. Due to the enabled-by-default behavior, SCIM annoys non-SCIM users who accidentally hit SCIM hotkeys, popping up the language bar or inputting unwanted characters. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235435 In an attempt to mitigate this enabled-by-default behavior, this change was hastily made without being thoroughly thought through. It disables the SCIM activation hotkey (CTRL-Space) if you login to a new user profile for the first time with a language that doesn't normally need SCIM. Disabling the hotkey by default is problematic: =============================================== - This creates inconsistent behavior between SCIM user profiles created at different times, depending on what locale and version of Fedora was running at the time. (Source of support and debugging confusion.) - This forces certain users to use a confusingly disjoint configuration within SCIM Setup, which is separate from im-chooser. (User confusion) - This still has an unnecessary memory footprint for users who absolutely never need SCIM. Solution ======== Jeremy Katz, the RH Desktop team and I have agreed upon the following. 1) Undo the hack made in Bug #235435. 2) Change SCIM's automatic launching to be locale specific. For example, Asian languages are in a SCIM automatic list, so launch automatically in those languages. Do not launch SCIM automatically in other languages. 3) Modify im-chooser to allow the user to override the automatic SCIM launch behavior. im-chooser should offer something like: * Always Use [SCIM] * Follow the system-wide configuration [SCIM] * Never use input methods "Follow the system-wide configuration [SCIM]" would be the default for all users. The user can then choose to explicitly override, to enable or disable input methods independently of their locale. Can we please implement this before Fedora 7? The SCIM running by default in all desktop languages is unacceptable, and the hack in Bug #235435 confuses the issue, hiding the real problem. We are willing to be flexible during the freeze to fix this. Warren Togami wtogami@xxxxxxxxxx -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly
