Re: plaque vs koji

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On Tuesday 27 February 2007 18:50, Axel Thimm wrote:
> koji is after replacing plaque. Is that that plan decided on already,
> or are there opponents to koji?

That was the plan as decided at the Fedora Summit.

> If the replacement is already decided 
> on, when should that happen? 

As soon as we can do it cleanly.

> In the wiki there is a delivery target of 
> F7test3 (in 4 weeks), do we really want to swap buildsystems shortly
> before a release? 

Given that Test3 is the Feature Freeze, and we've created a Test4 after that, 
and that both koji and plague use mock as the building tool, yes I feel 
confident switching them at this point.  Getting koji in place is a precursor 
to merging all the packages.

> If we commit to koji and it slips the whole release 
> slips even further, and we get back PR on this already.

I'm of the opinion that if we can't meet the Test3 deadline for koji, we may 
do a release without the merger, still composing out of the two package 
collections and target F8 for the merger.  This is just me thinking outload, 
no official statement or anything.

> And will the change affect packagers in their common workflow? E.g. I
> can imagine a rather transparent change, with make build someday
> silently (but pre-announced) update itself into calling koji
> components instead of plaque.

That's the plan.  Adding new packages may be an extra step or two for the 
cvsadmin for a bit, but 'make tag, make build' should all do the same things.  
You'll gain a lot more functionality out of the build system but you can 
completely ignore it if you want.

-- 
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora

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