On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:16:22PM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg alleged: > > On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 13:06, Alan Cox wrote: > > > You mean when it overwrites base packages and breaks stuff ? > > > > Then should setup road blocks to using rpm? To adding repos at all? To > > writing as root? The user had taken the step to add something which did NOT > > come with his/her installation. Adding a NON "supported" repo. From that > > point on, they're in the "on your own" land, and I'm perfectly happy with > > their system getting eaten alive. There is a REASON we don't include those > > repos. Setting up more (easily removable for those that know) roadblocks > > will do nothing more than confuse the user even more, and create more > > hostility toward the 3rd party packagers. > > Jesse, I just don't think it's that simple. > > It's easy for us to state, as policy, that "if you wander off the path, > Fedora will eat your babies." > > But *a lot* of people still take that risk when they don't understand the > risks they're taking. At all. > > I'm certainly not in favor of adding lots of arbitrary complexity to > prevent people from using 3rd party repos. But here's the thing: it's > also *entirely* possible to use 3rd party repos that don't overwrite core. > Over time, there may be many more of these. Why not enable the > functionality that tells users, one last time: > > "The operation you're about to perform will replace a core package. This > could make it more difficult to maintain your system. If you're *sure* > you want to do this, edit foo and change bar to baz." > > I believe that could help users -- users that are currently struggling to > understand the trade-offs between using straight Fedora and Fedora+3rd > parties. But I don't believe it does anything to damage the reputations > of 3rd party packagers. Not that anyone listens to me, but I'd like to go on record to say that I think this general idea is terrific. Not only for the newbs, but also as a useful tool for the experts (so you don't have to go double checking each new thing). -- Garrick Staples, Linux/HPCC Administrator University of Southern California
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