I am reluctantly in Mr. Stone's camp here. Reluctantly, because the strident nature of the evolution of this thread has obscured what I find to be a real issue: the question of what is and isn't "blessed" in the universe of Fedora packages. There are *a lot* of people don't quite understand how packages work -- and they certainly don't understand the ramifications of using a repo that overwrites packages from Core. I don't think it's unreasonable to package this plugin. I don't even think it's unreasonable to enable it by default; I certainly think it's a potentially worthwhile discussion. Is it a sensible compromise to include this plug-in by default for now? --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Christopher Stone wrote: > On 10/18/06, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:14, Christopher Stone wrote: > > > The reason it was closed was because Seth totally misunderstood what > > > the RFE was trying to accomplish. Set thought that we were trying to > > > make it impossible or extremely difficult for 3rd parth repos. to > > > override base packages when the opposite is true. We want to make it > > > easy for them to do this, but we want the user to have to take an > > > extra step in order to enable them to do this. And this extra step > > > should warn the user about the consequences of enabling this. > > > > > > We are *trying* to protect unknowning and unsuspecting users here. > > > > Unknowing and unsuspecting users will become frightening and confused when the > > repo they added doesn't work like the rest of the repos they have. > > I think this is better than some poor user who is forced to remove all > packages from a certain repository by hand after their system becomes > messed up. > > There was a poor unfortunate user on #fedora just yesterday who ran > into this problem and was forced to uninstall all 3rd party repo > packages which due to dependencies resulted in uninstalling and > reinstalling dozens of packages. This is *much* more freightening and > confusing to unsuspecting users if you ask me. > > -- > Fedora-maintainers mailing list > Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers > -- Fedora-maintainers mailing list Fedora-maintainers@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers -- Fedora-maintainers-readonly mailing list Fedora-maintainers-readonly@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-maintainers-readonly