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Due to my screwed up sleep schedule while adjusting to another 12 hour timezone change, I have not yet had a chance to talk with Dave in real-time. These are a bunch of preliminary thoughts to expand on the package review states that we created during the FUDCON2 meeting.

This design is heading towards the database driven package review process. Everything related to a package will be tracked in a ticket rather than scattered in the confusing mess that we have now.

I pose some new ideas and questions below. I also wonder if all of this is possible with a custom bugzilla template. If you see anything missing please speak up.

STATES FOR NEW PACKAGE REVIEW:
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  - NEW
	new package submission, can be claimed
  - PENDING/REVIEW
	claimed, or reviewer must re-examine

Warren: Reading this back after the meeting, this makes no sense to me. The other PENDING statuses mean "we're stuck until someone does something". For this reason I think it makes no sense to call this PENDING. Perhaps "REVIEW_UNDERWAY" better describes exactly what is happening?

If the review is canceled or times out, should it go back to NEW or some other state that means NOT_NEW_BUT_NEEDS_REVIEW_AGAIN?

If the reason for NEEDSWORK is fixed, should it go back to NEW or some other state that means NOT_NEW_BUT_NEEDS_REVIEW_AGAIN?

I personally think it makes little sense to have a "NEW" state and another that have almost the same meaning, because they are both in an unclaimed state. Any thoughts? If you think we should have that other state, what should we call it?

  - PENDING/NEEDSWORK
	review has identified problems,
	packager must do work in order to proceed further.
  - PENDING/LEGAL
	review has identified potential legal issues,
	legal must research in order to proceed further

  - FAILED/LICENSE
	packager must fix license and reopen
  - FAILED/LEGAL
	packager must fix legal issues and reopen
  - FAILED/SEE-NOTE
	packager must fix whatever is mentioned in the note and reopen

Warren: FAILED is a failure state where it would take a serious amount of work, like convincing upstream to change a license, or convincing a government to change a law, before the package is acceptable for Extras.

  - PASSED/DONE (CLOSED) (RESOLUTION)
Warren: Passed is an indication of the package passing review, but should we also track if the build is complete, signed and pushed? It can be misleading to read "DONE" in a query when the package is not yet pushed.

Dave, how do you think we should best represent Built/Signed/Pushed here? Built and Signed/Pushed could be represented as two states, since Build happens at a different time from Sign & Push which happen together. fedora.us used differnet Bugzilla resolution states for this, and it was convenient to query for and show up in rows of query results, but I am hoping there is a better way.


Some other Misc. Thoughts
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1) "Claimed" status must automatically timeout after a certain amount of time. Maybe 12 hours?

2) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora%20Extras&format=extras-review This is the current submission interface. I think perhaps the Arch chooser is not ideal here. There is no way of saying for example "i386 and ppc but not x86-64". It may be better to instead hide the Arch field, and use flags for each arch?

The form could have all supported archs checked by default, and the submitter could uncheck them explicitly if they want to be excluded.

3) There should be a field asking for only package name, while the Summary field is to describe the package in a one liner. The current "Help" for Summary doesn't encourage including the package name.

Dave is it possible to then within a query display "packagename - Summary" automatically?

4) It appears that the form wants to submit to product "Fedora Extras" currently. Shouldn't it submit to its own product, so we can keep these bugs away from the bugs associated with actual packages with owners?

5) There are no "owners" of package requests, so there need to be various auto-mailers setup, like a mailing list for people to subscribe to watch new package submissions. Some people even want to see all QA traffic, so this would be a different list. It would be nice if we could use mailman's concept of sublists in order to automatically kill the potential for annoying duplication, but I'm not exactly sure how this would work in this case.

6) We want flags for target distribution. The flags would default checked for "4" and "devel", and the submitter can choose more target distributions if they wish.

Warren Togami
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