I don't know how to say this more clearly: this entire discussion is a waste of time as it is a non-issue. The only reason it has come up for discussion is because of the current social unrest. Light vs. Dark goes back to the very dawn of civilization... which began in Africa. Whitelist and blacklist do not have any racial connotations and they never did. Everyone knows this. Are you afraid of some baseless accusations that hasn't even been made? If you don't want to use the terms then don't use them. It really doesn't make any difference. Use positive list and negative list if they make more sense to you. The only ones who really care are white liberals who perhaps feel a little guilty. Enough on this subject already! This is not a political discussion list... and if it is, I'll be unsubscribing. On June 25, 2020 6:43:05 PM CDT, Paul Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >I don't know how to say this any more clearly. Please read back into >the >thread. The issue is not the use of the word "black." > >The issue is the use of "blacklist/whitelist" where black and white are >representative of evil and good respectively. It serves no useful >purpose >and is better expressed as allow/deny. Blacklist and whitelist are >*themselves* obfuscatory terms. That's why it only makes more sense to >stop >using them. > > > >On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 3:20 PM Silvia Sánchez <bhkohane@xxxxxxxxx> >wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Since when the word "black" is bad? It's a colour. Same as white, >blue, >> orange and pale pink. >> Changing the use of two terms associated with colours doesn't make >any >> sense and will be confusing for everyone. >> I'm absolutely against it. We don't need to obfuscate the meaning of >> things or make it hard to understand to non-native English speakers. >> Also, did anyone actually got offended by this term? Or is it just a >case >> of opening the umbrella before it rains? >> >> Kind regards, >> Lailah >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 00:06, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@xxxxxxxxx> >wrote: >> >> > Ok, so as the writer of the article here are my thoughts... >> > >> > I'm OK with changing the term if it add clarity, but I'm against >changing >> > it just because it contains the name "black". >> > >> > It's a color. There are black pens, marks, crayons, etc (as far as >> > reference to the color). >> > >> > Blacklisting something (or someone) has a long history of use (at >least >> in >> > English) which has nothing to do with race. >> > >> > I don't see changing this particular article as a problem, but >rather as >> a >> > stepping stone to a run-away issue for which there is no solution >and I'm >> > not in favor of "cleansing" language to appease people who can't >help >> > themselves from being offended even when there's no reason to be. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Richard >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To unsubscribe send an email to >magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Fedora Code of Conduct: >> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> > List Guidelines: >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> > List Archives: >> > >> >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe send an email to >magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >_______________________________________________ >Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To unsubscribe send an email to magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Fedora Code of Conduct: >https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >List Archives: >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
