Re: Use of whitelist/blacklist in articles

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 4:35 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Several comments on yesterday's fail2ban article[1], as well as some
> internal Red Hat mailing list traffic, raised concern with the use of
> the word "blacklist". While the etymology of the term is not racist,
> there are reasonable arguments to be made that it can contribute to
> unconscious bias. Its meaning is also less obvious than alternatives
> like "block list".
>
> So there are two questions here:
>
> 1. Should we discourage the use of whitelist and blacklist in Fedora
> Magazine in favor of alternatives like "allow list" and "block
> list"/"deny list"?

Yes.

> 2. Should we start developing a style guide that addresses this and
> other issues (e.g. the style of projects like "NetworkManager" (not
> "Network Manager") and other things both malign and benign (like using
> the words "simple" or "just") that a style guide normally covers)?

Yes.

> I am in favor of both of the above.
>
> For anyone who is interested, I learned today that the latest update
> to the codespell package (currently in testing[2]) can flag some of
> these issues:
>     codespell --builtin clear,rare,usage <filename>

I had no idea this exists and that's awesome.

Frankly, 'allowlist'/'denylist' makes way more sense anyway. It
doesn't force people using some other languages to figure out a weird
etymology. And it has precedent (/etc/hosts.{allow,deny}).

Can we fix the article that's out there now?

-- 
Paul
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