On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 03:45:10PM +0200, Davide Caratti wrote: > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 17:28 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > Hi Davide, > > > > The Magazine editorial board reviewed the pitch/draft you submitted to > > the Magazine about PMF. We liked the idea that this content helps > > users solve a problem they may run into if they upgrade to Fedora 28. > > However, it was also very detailed in ways that will probably deter > > readers from reading the article. > > (cc-ing Francesco as he reviewed the post) > > sorry for answering late: I was on vacation in the last two weeks. > > I felt the need for adding some details on how to troubleshoot PMF on > fedora, as we are receiving many bugzilla notifications from users > experiencing wifi connectivity troubles, and almost all of them relate to > PMF. > > All users restored connectivity by disabling PMF with nmcli, like I > suggest at the end of the second chapter. Nevertheless, PMF is a security > improvement and users should use it if the Access Point is advertising to > be MFP-Capable. > > These problems are not a bug in wpa_supplicant. Most of the times they are > caused by bugs in wireless drivers (specially Intel), Rarely, they are > misconfigurations / bugs in the Access Point. In both cases, a software > upgrade containing a fix will not probably happen in a short time. > > > So, I tried to do a comprehensive text trying to anticipate the "WiFi > sucks on Fedora" rant (before we see another 'WiFi sucks' rant, like it > happened with [1]). > > > Could you rework this article to be simpler, and eliminating some of > > the unnecessary technical details? We don't assume all users are > > stupid. But on the other hand, readers have a limited attention span > > according to our metrics, so the Magazine aims for higher readability, > > and articles that focus on their problem and how to solve it. > > > > Let us know what you think. > > Stupid people just don't exist. Anyway, even though I can assume all > readers can upgrade/downgrade an rpm, and see a wireless connection > problem apperaing/disappearing, I'm not 100% sure they know how ciphers > are negotiated between Access Points and clients in a managed BSS. > > after a fresh re-read, I think I can get rid of this paragraph > > << > Like other features in the 802.11 standard, PMF is designed to be > backwards-compatible. It is possible to configure the desired PMF > enforcement level, both on the Access Point and on the client, depending > on the desired trade-off between protection and interoperability: > > PMF Disabled: no protection present, nor required. > PMF Optional: protect only frames sent to nodes that advertise the PMF > capability, and keep transmitting unprotected frames to other “legacy” > nodes. > PMF Required: only associate/accept association if the peer node is > PMF-capable > > When a client associates to an AP, and both nodes have PMF enabled (with > ‘Optional’ or ‘Required’), they will negotiate the cipher suite that is > going to be used for MICs. Negotiation will be successful if the two nodes > (usually the Access Point and the client) will agree on one of the ciphers > belonging to the BIP (Broadcast Integrity Protection) Group Management > suite. Within wpa_supplicant it’s possible to specify the algorithm among > a set of available cipher suites, that are made available by the NIC > hardware, or by the kernel crypto library, or both. All these information > can be read in the RSN Information Element (i.e. the MFP Capable and the > MFP Required bit in the RSN Capabilities subelement, and the BIP Group > Management Suite listing the configured ciphers). > > >> > > We can remove it, many users read the system log and attach it to > bugzilla; almost nobody attachs EAPOL traces (and it's not trivial to > capture auth/deauth packets). > > Alternatively, I can publish this post "as-is" elsewhere, and write a > small introductive chapter for fedora magazine. > > WDYT? > > thanks! > -- > davide > > [1] http://blog.cerowrt.org/post/disabling_channel_scans/ Hi Davide, thanks for the note back. I think, based on your explanation here, your second suggestion might be a better fit for the magazine. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com _______________________________________________ Fedora Magazine mailing list -- magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to magazine-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/46QNRWEJ3MR6424UPUT2XIVKY6CIEXON/