[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Request to stop hobbling crypto libraries

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On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 12:26:02PM +0200, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 12:20 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 12:14:58PM +0200, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 6:11 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm bumping this thread again to ask if we can make everyone's lives
> > > > easier by dropping all the hobbling we do today to OpenSSL, nettle,
> > > > etc.. We *definitely* don't need it now at this point, so it's just
> > > > needless work that creates a lot of second-order pain for people (such
> > > > as library bindings for other programming languages).
> > >
> > > The annual bump on this thread to once again ask if we can make
> > > progress on this issue. It's a pain and I really don't think we have
> > > any reason to keep doing it anymore.
> >
> > It appears the maintainers of openssl & nettle have *already* removed
> > hobbling from Fedora
> >
> > In netle dist-git:
> >
> >   commit 478b2083882071d9102297b4f0c022f65d567b1e
> >   Author: Daiki Ueno <dueno@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >   Date:   Thu Aug 22 14:25:26 2024 +0900
> >
> >     Switch from hobbling to patching to disable algorithms
> >
> >     Previously, certain algorithms, such as smaller ECC curves, were
> >     "hobbled" using the hobble-nettle script. It is now allowed to include
> >     the algorithm implementation in the source package, though we still
> >     want to disable them at build time.
> >
> >     This patch switches to using a patch-based approach to disable
> >     them. That way, the packaging process is simplified as well as the
> >     integrity of upstream release can be checked using %gpgverify.
> >
> >     Signed-off-by: Daiki Ueno <dueno@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > And in openssl dist-git:
> >
> >   commit 477bb5e652b21c76dccaf690d2327af8f86bd16f
> >   Author: Sahana Prasad <sahana@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >   Date:   Tue Mar 14 17:07:58 2023 +0100
> >
> >       - Upload new upstream sources without manually hobbling them.
> >       - Remove the hobbling script as it is redundant. It is now allowed to ship
> >         the sources of patented EC curves, however it is still made unavailable to use
> >         by compiling with the 'no-ec2m' Configure option. The additional forbidden
> >         curves such as P-160, P-192, wap-tls curves are manually removed by updating
> >         0011-Remove-EC-curves.patch.
> >       - Apply the changes to ec_curve.c and  ectest.c as a new patch
> >         0010-Add-changes-to-ectest-and-eccurve.patch instead of replacing them.
> >       - Modify 0011-Remove-EC-curves.patch to allow Brainpool curves.
> >       - Modify 0011-Remove-EC-curves.patch to allow code under macro OPENSSL_NO_EC2M.
> >     ┊   Resolves: rhbz#2130618, rhbz#2141672
> >
> >     Signed-off-by: Sahana Prasad <sahana@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Right, but that's still hobbling by other means. I'm asking for us to
> consider not doing even *that* anymore.

Ah ok, so you want Fedora to build & ship all algorithms that are
implemented by upstream, with no downstream filtering. ie no hobbling
source tarballs, no applying source patches, no disabling via configure
time build args ?


With regards,
Daniel
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