Re: SPDX progress

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On Mon Sep 19, 2022, Richard Fontana wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM Maxwell G <gotmax@e.email> wrote:
>
>> I was also curious how many packages are automatically compliant due 
>> to
>> identifiers that are the same between Callaway and SPDX. This yields a
>> much larger number.
>
> This raises the issue of what "automatically compliant" means.
> Nominally, "License: MIT" is both Callaway-compliant and
> SPDX-compliant, but of course using "MIT" in the Callaway sense is not
> what is expected in the SPDX/post-Callaway era.

That's a good point; it's impossible to tell whether "MIT" refers to the
Callaway umbrella "MIT" or the more narrow SPDX "MIT." I brought up this
issue when the licensing Change Proposal was initially proposed. I
recall being told that it didn't make sense to explicitly mark packages
that converted to SPDX and that the MIT ambiguity wasn't important for
the first phase.

> Even in those cases where the Callaway identifier is not concei
ved as
> an 'umbrella' label, I am not sure it is right to view, say, "License:
> Apache-2.0" resulting from a superficial translation of "License: ASL
> 2.0" as compliant with post-Callaway standards (or even strict
> application of Callaway standards, come to think of it). I think
> Jilayne may see this differently though. :)

I don't think the post-Callaway guidelines are significantly different
in this regard. The effective license analysis only applied to GPL
family licensing. Searching for packages that were converted and have
e.g. "GPL-3.0-or-later" isn't foolproof either; you still can't tell
whether the maintainer did a full re-audit to find secondary licenses.
Whether or not the multi-licensing is always handled properly (it's not)
is orthogonal.


My goal wasn't to determine whether every package in this count is fully
compliant. I just wanted to see which packages at least use the new
license identifiers. That's about as far as you can get with the
curren
t implementation. For the packages I maintain with "License: MIT"
or "License: Unlicense," I'm not going to add a "Adopt new licensing
guidelines" changelog entry/commit if there's nothing that changed.

--
Best,

Maxwell G (@gotmax23)
Pronouns: He/Him/His
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