Re: Lua Logo license text (restricted modifications)

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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:44 AM Igor Raits
<ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 11:39 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > Hello. I try to package a software that shows the Lua logo in it.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1834280
> >
> > The logo's license is:
> >
> > Copyright © 1998 Lua.org. Graphic design by Alexandre Nakonechnyj.
> > Permission is hereby granted, without written agreement and without
> > license or
> > royalty fees, to use, copy, and distribute this logo for any purpose,
> > including
> > commercial applications, subject to the following conditions:
> >
> > - The origin of this logo must not be misrepresented; you must not
> > claim that
> >    you drew the original logo.
> > - The only modification you can make is to adapt the orbiting text to
> > your
> >    product name.
> > - The logo can be used in any scale as long as the relative
> > proportions of its
> >    elements are maintained.
> >
> > ---end---
> >
> > Clearly, this does not allow modifications, but do we have some
> > exceptions for
> > branding? Or do I need to strip the logo out of the package?
>
> - From my non-lawyer perspective I think this is not really true.
>
> I think you can modify logo as long as you say that you've used as a
> base logo which was created by Lua.org and you can do any modifications
> to it. But if you change anything else than orbiting text or scale, you
> must write that you've used original logo and you changed it the way
> that it does not represent original Lua thing, but rather did something
> on top of original logo create by Lua.org.

I don't agree. The license is pretty clear: "The only modification you
can make ..." and the license is based on a FOSS license that includes
permission to modify
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:MIT?rd=Licensing/MIT#Modern_Variants)
but the Lua logo license removes that permission.

Is the logo actually used in any way? It didn't seem to be on a cursory review.

Richard
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