On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tom Callaway <tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 02/23/2012 04:28 PM, inode0 wrote: >> And I really hope you find something in the above helpful. > > John, > > Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Robyn, Mo, and I are going > to discuss this issue in depth with Pam next week and we hope to be able > to rework this aspect of the proposed TM guidelines to address many of > the concerns raised. Thinking a little more about the implications and point of the changes rather than the actual changes themselves I can offer a best effort at the following if that will help. As I recall from memory today the ambassadors in NA began producing a variety of merchandise beginning in 2008 and continuing to the present time. There probably were earlier occurrences of ambassador produced merchandise (in particular I recall earlier t-shirts being produced) but I don't know what process was used or how that was done prior to FAmNA coming into existence. In most cases I am pretty sure we could recover a lot of this information for everything that has been produced since 2008 that was funded through FAmNA or CommArch for FAmNA. We should have receipts that will show when they were produced and what company produced them and the date of first production. In at least a couple of cases I am quite sure I remember the specific event they were first distributed at as well. In most cases those involved in producing the items are still involved in the project and with their help we might be able to document a lot of this information for merchandise used during the 2008-present time period. I still have have pristine physical examples of many small items if those are useful in some way as well. If this is something you would like us to attempt to do please let us know as the sooner we try the more likely we are to succeed. John _______________________________________________ legal mailing list legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/legal