On Apr 29, 2009, "Tom \"spot\" Callaway" <tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My psychic powers not withstanding, you really shouldn't make > assumptions. As I wrote, I made them based on your opinions. I honestly didn't expect you to go about making strong assertions without having the faintest clue as to what you were discussing. > I was honestly under the impression you were pitching a hypothetical > scenario, Not enough of a clue that I wrote: What if one piece of firmware is licensed under: (note the present tense *is*, not *was*) and another piece of code, copyrighted by the same party, says: Which of the two should be taken out so that the other can be redistributable? Perhaps the latter, given that it's a driver under a license that's not even compatible with GPLv2? And then, why would I add “[...]” to indicate omission of portions from a hypothetical license? > As to the upstream Linux kernel having firmware, yes, it does. What I don't get is why you keep returning to this point. The issue is not about firmware. There are two issues here: 1. combining GPLed Linux code with *driver* (!= firmware) code derived from GPLed code that adds incompatible restrictions => GPL violation, enforceable by *any* Linux copyright holder 2. combining the aforementioned code with code that is explicitly excluded by the GPL-incompatible restriction => copyright infringement enforceable by the very party who set the trap While you keep focusing on the firmware, these two points that have to do with a driver, not with firmware, fly way over the top of your head. It is sad that Linux upstream developers are so sloppy with licenses, but unfortunately not all of the problems they bring about revolve around firmware. I honestly wish they weren't so sloppy, it would make for far less legal risk for all of us. Please take your head out of the sand. If you are the party responsible for looking after this kind of legal problem in Fedora, it's not responsible to declare you're done with this issue just because you don't like another unrelated issue I brought up before, and you pretend it's the same. Now, you don't have to report anything back to the list or to myself, but please don't fail to do your job just because you can't stand me. It's an important job, and the Fedora community counts on you to do it. Thanks, -- Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/ You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer _______________________________________________ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list