Legacy's Success; Re: why I'm using Ubuntu instead of Fedora ATM

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So many people now seem to want to point to Fedora Legacy and use it as a Free-Software Whipping Boy to use its eventual demise as some kind of example of failure to point to. For example,

Luis Villa wrote:
On 1/3/07, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi!
A Fedora LTS (two years? maybe the server parts ever three?) now and
then (every second or third release?) from a new Fedora Legacy (needs a
different name) would IMHO a nice solution.

> <snip>
>
(FWIW, I think it is unreasaonble to expect a true-community distro to
do real LTS-y stuff- most volunteers don't have the patience to do the
necessary backporting for the necessary length of time. (See Fedora
Legacy.) <snip>

As a long-time contributor to and advocate for the Fedora Legacy Project, I have to say that, over most of its life, Legacy did not fail its mission, if one were to consider Legacy's mission to provide security updates to packages that people really cared about. Why? Because it was those packages that folks cared about either (a) that squeaked the wheel on the project's email list or (b) that motivated people to dig in and get themselves dirty doing onerous, boring, but important work for the community of Legacy users.

For the longest time, I personally cared about Fedora Core 1, and also cared about the old Red Hat Linux releases 7.3 and 9.0. The project cared too. Fedora Core 1 came out in Fall of 2003, and was essentially supported until May or June of this year -- which is a lifetime of two-and-a-half years -- covering security updates for those packages that the folks who volunteered wanted or that users squawked loudly for (like sendmail, glibc, mozilla, and others). And what about Red Hat Linux 7.3 and 9? Even longer! For these three releases, and also perhaps FC2, this project was more successful than perhaps the founders of Fedora Legacy had hoped or dreamed it would be.

A lot of the work towards the end of the useful life of Fedora Legacy was done by one man: Marc Deslauriers, to which all Fedora Legacy users owe a LOT (and I mean a *LOT*) of thank-you's! He was the one builder brave enough to go in and do kernel security updates for the (at one time) FIVE Linux releases that Legacy was supporting; and for many other packages, Marc did much or most the work of the steps we had in place to assure sanity, quality, and security in the creation of updated (backported) packages for our end-users.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Marc!!! Your example is one we should all be committed enough to follow and emulate!

And what were Marc and the other contributors paid for this often onerous work? Not one penny. Often we were paid more complaints than compliments. It became utterly too thankless of a task (and too little interest from the community in even doing the QA work we had outlined in our documentation) for me to continue, and probably the same goes for Marc. I believe the few who did most of the work finally burned out.

There are still people who want to help out and don't know where to begin to help to keep some kind of Legacy alive for the releases they care about. Is this failure?

My assessment is this:  If legacy failed it did so in these areas:
   * Management of contributor resources
   * Devotion of people who knew how to motivate and cause people
     in the contributing community to feel valued, motivated and
     special, and to give a voice to those who cared.
Legacy rarely had meetings, had no board to speak of, and therefore no clear mechanism of accountability.

I hope the good folks of Legacy remember Legacy *not* as a failed experiment, but as one that lasted longer and did better than folks had any right to expect.

	Warm regards,

	David Eisenstein

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