On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 22:56 -0400, David Curry wrote: > Jason Lim wrote: > > >>Anybody know where *is* a place to get help with FC versions in legacy > >>status? By the time they're mature enough for me to cope with, they've > >>usually *been* in that status a while. (And yes, I am indeed looking > >>around for some other distro; it'll take a while.) I find > >> > >> > >fedoraforum.org, > > > > > >>for instance, inordinately hard to use .... > >> > >> > > > >I know I won't be popular for mentioning any other distro, but Debian and > >Debian based distros like Ubuntu, Knoppix, and so forth, tend to have long > >version times. > > > >For example, the current Debian version has been released for about 3 > >years if I am correct, and all that time, security updates, etc. are > >provided. And even now, although they are releasing a new version, the > >Debain Security Team is going to continue updates for the existing version > >for another 1 to 1.5 years. This makes it excellent for servers and where > >stability counts. > > > >It doesn't have the latest whiz-bang features of Fedora, but it sounds > >like that is not your main focus. > > > >I actually think providing legacy updates for the FC releases is going to > >implode sooner or later, since there are not enough people to keep > >supporting so many releases as they come out and the release maintainers > >and others are going to burn out.. I think focusing on legacy for Redhat 9 > >would make far more sense, and seems the main reason the majority are > >using FedoraLegacy.org anyway. > > > > > > > Beartooth, I hear you loud and clear and the message resonates here. I > am looking at shifting from my FC2 installation to a Debian-based > distribution for some of the reasons Jason identified. In addition to > Ubuntu and Knoppix, there is Kbuntu and MEPIS. (MEPIS is a subscription > distribution that is available as a LiveCD with an option to easily > install on the hard disk.) However, there is also at least one Red Hat > based alternative. > > Centos is a Red Hat Enterprise Linux clone that you might want to take a > look at. As I understand it, Centos IS RHEL without the Red Hat > trademarked items and the project's goal is to parallel support life of > RHEL which is something like 3 - 5 years. File structures, system > utility names, etc. should all be the same. > > I think Jason is pretty much on the mark about legacy support of Fedora > releases if one thinks solely in terms of each and every release. OTOH, > I can see people sticking with some versions of Fedora much longer than > other versions. And, I can see more people gravitating to fedoralegacy > as the upgrade cycle continues just as some now lending some supporting > hands on older releases may bite the bullet, upgrade to the current > Fedora release, and drop off the legacy list for the official support > cycle for that release. BUT, those who are most interested in fedora > releases mature enough for some production environments could well > upgrade their systems to a fedora release that are already in legacy > status and contribute to its continued maintenance. > > <hiding from potential shrapnel attacks> I have studied Linux distros for a while. I even compared them all in some serious testing while writing a book for O'Reilly & Associates. With the proper tweaking, Fedora Core III stands heads above the others. You can read my evaluations on the Linux Journal web site and other places around the Internet. I started a series in Linux Journal this week which provides a bunch of performance optimization hacks to Fedora and Ubuntu. It's about a five part series and I'm going to do a summary. If you're looking for a serious web server to co-host at an ISP, I don't know that I would use an non-enterprise system. I went with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 for our business systems. But, I use Fedora Core 3 for our desktops and we're pleased with it. I get pretty much any distro I want for free for just doing an evaluation. So, maybe that says something. Tom -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
