On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 15:24 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > Define "production level system" > > In my view, *any* system that is used in the course of business (be it > for patch testing, or end-user facing) is a production system. I > suppose that you can make the distinction between levels of systems > (dev, test, acceptance, production?), but in my mind all those systems > need to be up to vendor patch level else testing of a vendor patch is > fruitless given the non-consistent environment. > > ...snip... > > > No changes happen to production servers here without this. > > Define "here". What is the environment there? I see where our miscommunication is. To me a production server is one that is used in the day to day production of the company, users use it, services use it, etc.. A test lab system is not one of these systems. There is no loss of productivity if a test server crashes, especially if you're trying to make the test server crash. Think of it as the dogfood box next to your desk that you do test installs on and other random stuff, stuff you wouldn't want on your main workstation because it might crash. These are lab systems, not production servers. By 'here' I mean the company I work for and do IT for. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list