On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 14:33 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > You sort of just described such a system. It makes good sense to have > one or two production servers auto-update. No. Period. The autoupdating ones are the ones in the lab. Running as close to a config as the production systems as possible. THESE can auto-update for testing purposes. > Those sames systems can then > be quickly tested and then used as the update server for the internal > system. Bad idea. Don't autoupdate any production level system. If you can't have it go down at any time, don't allow auto updates. > What benefit do I gain by waiting on an email then manually > downloading an update vs having the system automatically download and > apply the update? Again, see above. > Would you prefer Microsoft to automatically update end user systems > (even small business Exchange systems hanging off a T1s everywhere), > or > do you think that it's best to wait on those people to get around to > finally updating their virus ridden systems? I personally think a > valid > case can be made for vendors forcibly updating neglected systems. ;-) I would never do business with a company that would want to install updates w/out my approval. People have the option to enable auto updates if they want. I personally have been bitten by way too many updates that failed in a particular configuration that just wasn't expected at the test labs at a vendor location. A vendor can't possibly test every permutation of how their update will effect running systems. They make a best effort and it is the end user's responsibility to plan, test, deploy, and test again to make sure the update doesn't cause any problems. Preferably with backups and a backout plan. No changes happen to production servers here without this. Because of that we haven't had an unexpected shutdown (minus hardware failure) in a very very very long time. -- Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) Was I helpful? Let others know: http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list
