On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 15:43 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > True. What I said was a little harsh. Reality is that things that > really are serious decisions do get ran through the mail lists. Some of my comments were probably overly harsh. In an effort get something positive out of this discussion, let me continue with why it is difficult for me to contribute more. Let's take "mc" as an issue. I use Midnight Commander, and I see there is some chatter about it in Bugzilla. So, I go to bugzilla and search for it it.... hmmm, 4 hits. Which is the one that I should spend time with? Ok, so I pick one, looks like there isn't really a good consensus from the deep level guys as to what to fix... this means there is nothing for me to test. Ok, so I wait. Days pass. Oh, looks like there are now some pkgs to d/l and test. What to test? Where is the details on what should be tested... go read CAN reports. OK, now I think I know what was broke, where do I go to determine what was fixed so that I know what to test? Oh well, I give up and just test the stuff that I use in mc. Great, all works (afaik), sha1sum and post a VERIFY. More days pass, more deep level comments about more mc issues needing resolution. The result: all the time I spent was a waste. The FL process is painful, difficult, and makes people question whether or not they even want to be involved. -Jim P. -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list