Thank you all for the high powered advice on this list There I was thinking "Linux is easy," basking in the free lunch of Redhat's up2date service. One click and I got all my "rpms" without knowing what rpm stood for. Then along came "EOL" (death in other words?) and, even with everyone's kind advice, I feel as if I am in this (recommended) http://www.heinemann.es/MEDIA/switchlinux3.swf My Redhat 9 server still runs but, cyber goats! The prospect of updating it seems so complicated. I have a Redhat refugee aquaitance that recommends http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/update.html or even http://www.suse.com/ Anything wrong with going down that path? Is it apt? Yum yum? Tim -- fedora-legacy-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legacy-list