It's already January 1st in most of the world. And it soon will be everywhere else. Is there anything working we can point 7.3 systems to? With or without RPM or up2date (I use apt-get). Or in other words, it's time to stop arguing about what we'd like to have, and live with what we do have. Or buy the commercial service from Progeny. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman, nobaloney.net, P. O. Box 52672, Riverside, CA 92517 US Professional Internet Services & Support / Consulting / Colocation Our blists address used on lists is for list email only Phone +1 909 324-9706, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html"