Hi, > > > Sure. Having a feature page drawing that big picture would be helpful > > > for these discussions I think ... > > > > Definitely a system wide change. While there are some logistics to > > work out on the kernel side, most of the work is packaging. I would > > guess timelines will need to be defined by the teams where code is > > needed. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_Kernel_Support_Phase_1 Resuming that discussion. State of affairs: Test packages are available: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kraxel/unified.kernel/ Kickstart install files and helper scripts: https://gitlab.com/kraxel/fedora-uki Prebuilt qemu VM test images: https://www.kraxel.org/fedora-uki/ Right now I'm trying to figure how to handle kernel installs best. Currently the kickstart files use ... touch /etc/kernel/install.d/20-grub.install touch /etc/kernel/install.d/50-dracut.install .. to avoid kernel-core post-install creating a loader/entries/*.conf snippet and dracut creating an (unused) initrd. Which is ok for a Proof-of-Concept, but clearly a non-starter as long-term solution. I've played around a bit with kernel-install script plugins trying to detect the presence of a unified kernel image and change behavior then. That feels a bit hackish though, and I suspect making that robust and covering all corner cases (like switching between unified and non-unified kernels) will be next to impossible. I think a better way forward is to have strictly separate rpms for kernels and modules. Today 'kernel-core' has both the (non-unified) kernel binary and the essential modules. Due to the modules being in there it must be installed even if we don't want use the kernel binary. So how about splitting 'kernel-core' into a modules and a kernel binary package? Like this: kernel-modules-core - the modules from current 'kernel-core' kernel-modules-standard - current 'kernel-modules' renamed (maybe skip rename, but I think it'll be less confusing that way). kernel-modules-{extra,internal} - no changes kernel-binary-bare - the kernel binary from current 'kernel-core' kernel-binary-uki-virt - unified kernel (same as 'kernel-unified-virt' in the test package repo). kernel-{doc,tools*,headers,...} - no changes With that in place kernel-binary-* packages are self-contained. They just install/remove the kernel from /boot and/or ESP on install/remove. No need to check whenever *other* packages are present and change behavior based on that. Comments? take care, Gerd _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue