Re: Kernel version plans for Fedora 34 ?

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:06 AM Justin Forbes <jmforbes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 7:19 AM Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering with which kernel version we are planning to ship Fedora 34 gold ?
> >
> > I expect 5.12 final to be released on April 19th, which puts it just past the
> > F34 final freeze. So I was wondering if we are going to stick with 5.11, or
> > since things are close, do the 5.12-rc7 to final bump during the freeze?
>
> Your timeline is off:
>
> the v5.12 kernel predictions: merge window closes on Sunday,
> 2021-03-07 and release on Sunday, 2021-05-02

PHB timeline actually would have an rc8 for 5.11, which I don't
expect, but even without that, it is expecting no rc8 for 5.12, so if
we had no rc8 for either, the earliest we would see 5.12 is
2021-04-25.  If something pops up this week and we end up with an rc8
for both 5.11 and 5.12 it could be as late as 2021-05-09.   In either
case, the preferred target date for F34 is 2021-04-20, and the slip
date is 2021-04-27.  There is no way we can get 5.12 final there.

>
> Fedora 34 will ship with 5.11. Of course we will rebase to 5.12 when
> it is appropriate to do so.
>
> >
> > The reason I'm asking is that the 5.12 kernel has the kernel interfaces which
> > power-profile-daemon:
> >
> > https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/settings-mockups/-/blob/master/power/power.png
> > http://www.hadess.net/2020/09/power-profiles-daemon-new-project.html
> >
> > Will use to set the performance (aka platform) profile on for example
> > ThinkPad laptops.
> >
> > So if we are going to ship with 5.12, then everything will be great,
> > but if we are going to go with 5.11, then I should probably backport
> > the necessary bits to the Fedora 5.11 kernels (the patches are not that
> > big, it just took a while for everyone to agree on the userspace API).
> >
> > So, what kernel-version are we planning on shipping F34 gold with?
> >
>
> While F34 will ship with 5.11, it should be well past the merge window
> for 5.12, and I expect those patches will be in linus' tree at that
> point. If that is the case, I don't see why they can't be brought back
> to 5.11 if they are non invasive.
>
> Justin
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