Hi Don! Am 05.06.20 um 17:01 schrieb Don Zickus: > Thanks for the feedback! Thx for saying that, I already feared I sooner or later might come across as the crazy guy that complains about everything and therefor not really taken seriously… ;-) > On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 02:24:13PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> Lo! I'm slightly puzzled. These messages are now sent to >> fedora-kernel-list, which kinda sounds like input from the fedora >> community is wanted. But all this discussions look RHEL-specific to me. > Yes. > >> Or am I missing something? Fedora at least seems to enable >> CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY if I read >> https://gitlab.com/cki-project/kernel-ark/-/blob/os-build/redhat/configs/fedora/generic/x86/CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY >> >> right. And that file is not touched by the patch. So from a perspective >> of someone Fedora developer that subscribes to fedora-kernel-list this >> and similar messages look like useless noise – and at the same time they >> are hard to read, as it's not easy to see if a patch is relevant for >> Fedora or not. > It is easy to see this as useless noise. > […] > I am open to suggestions to help create a better experience here. Would > adding a keyword in the subject line help filter this? Something else? > Maybe another mailing list for configs is something to bring back up? Well, I don't mind a few more mails, I already get a lot and they make not much of a difference, *if* they are useful somehow. But to be useful they are currently to hard to parse/understand: you have to scroll down quite far and at the same time look closely to not miss the interesting part, as that is only three lines long per symbol: ``` +++ b/redhat/configs/common/generic/CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +# CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY is not set ``` At the same time one IMHO relevant context information is missing afaics: how did the Fedora kernel maintainers set this option? IOW: I'd even like the mails if they would look more like this, where the interesting part is at the top: ``` Subject: New configs in drivers/hwmon Set newly introduced config symbols like this in kernel-ark: * set CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY to 'not set' for RHEL ('m' in Fedora) * set CONFIG_SENSORS_MAX16601 to 'not set' for RHEL ('not set' in Fedora) <Symbol description/> <all the other stuff needed, including the the slightly annoying standard header that starts with 'As a reminder, the ARK configuration flow involves', and obviously the diff itself/> ``` Maybe even add the config symbol to the subject if it doesn't get to long that way. That would makes these mails a lot more useful and easier to review for me. And I guess it's the same for RH partners and customers as well. > Please keep the feedback Be careful what you wish for ;-) > coming, we will slowly work through this! Thx for working on this, much appreciated! CU, knurd _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx