Hi Knurd, Thanks for the feedback! On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 02:24:13PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Lo! I'm slightly puzzled. These messages are now sent to > fedora-kernel-list, which kinda sounds like input from the fedora > community is wanted. But all this discussions look RHEL-specific to me. Yes. > Or am I missing something? Fedora at least seems to enable > CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY if I read > https://gitlab.com/cki-project/kernel-ark/-/blob/os-build/redhat/configs/fedora/generic/x86/CONFIG_SENSORS_AMD_ENERGY > > right. And that file is not touched by the patch. So from a perspective > of someone Fedora developer that subscribes to fedora-kernel-list this > and similar messages look like useless noise – and at the same time they > are hard to read, as it's not easy to see if a patch is relevant for > Fedora or not. It is easy to see this as useless noise. The original goal was to setup the Fedora kernel as the kernel RHEL is derived from without negatively impacting Fedora's mission. The hope would be to allow us to point our partners and customers towards the Fedora kernel for early development and testing. Thus growing the kernel community here and making a positive impact on the Fedora kernel overall. However, that leads us to a situation about the kernel configs. Obviously the Fedora and RHEL configs have different audiences, hence the internal split. But how to handle the changes? From a Fedora perspective, the Fedora kernel maintainers make a best guess and commit things behind the scenes, no email noise. If they get it wrong or if a modification is requested, a simple email or irc poke is generally good enough. RHEL is a little more structured and requires feedback from the stakeholders of that subsystem. This added communication creates the noise you are mentioning. The aim was for some transparency so others (partners, customers and community) could chime in with feedback if they wanted to help influence RHEL. It was also thought, this noise usually stems from -rc1 fallout and is only noisy every 8 weeks or so. We could move this noise to another list, but the fear is confusion about what changes are posted to what list. I am open to suggestions to help create a better experience here. Would adding a keyword in the subject line help filter this? Something else? Maybe another mailing list for configs is something to bring back up? Hopefully that explains the motivation, background and how we ended up here. Please keep the feedback coming, we will slowly work through this! Thanks! Cheers, Don _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
