On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 05:18:49PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 02.10.18 14:34, Hans de Goede (hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > Ok fair enough. Keeping it easy for users to try out hibernate is > > a valid argument. > > This is just weird. Why would GNOME expose a button to regular user > that reads "hey, press me, please use this feature, but it's not going > to work, and nobody is going to help you with it or fix bugs, > kthxbye". That's just awful UI. you are right. So GNOME should change to old bevavior. > Quite frankly, this is quite ridiculous. GNOME is not the only user of > this, we shouldn't expose crap that doesn't work in the UI, regardless > what the UI looks like. GNOME has every right to assume that what the > underlying layers advertise works. And when it doesn't then the > underlying layers should stop advertising this. Iirc on the kernel side it has been for nearly two decades or so like it is now. Every other "user" did learn how to deal with it. Why the sudden drama? Because GNOME decided to change something without considering to ask the user? Richard -- Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx